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re: What will you consider as a win for trump in the budget/wall showdown?

Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:15 am to
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18438 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:15 am to
Weed sure. But do you really want cocaine and heroin legal on the streets?
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:16 am to
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Weed sure. But do you really want cocaine and heroin legal on the streets?



How can you reasonably expect Society to advance if people are not responsible for their own decisions? I wouldnt smoke crack, legal or not.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18438 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:18 am to
Because humanity has proven that it can't be totally trusted time and time again. Besides, if not drugs, the criminal organizations will find something else to push. Eliminate them.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:13 am to
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Because humanity has proven that it can't be totally trusted time and time again. Besides, if not drugs, the criminal organizations will find something else to push. Eliminate them.


Do you really think we would add that much more users of crack or heroin just because it's legal?
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:53 am to
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Is anything short of a wall across the entire southern border a loss for trump?


Why are all of your either or scenarios always based on a lie?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54209 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:02 am to
Has the border wall bill passed in 2006 been rescinded? Didn't think so. So, this ain't on Trump, this is on Congress for the last eleven years of doing nothing.
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
Member since Apr 2015
2763 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 9:14 am to
"Whose gonna pay for the wall?"



"We are!"
Posted by bamalee
Member since Jan 2009
1001 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:20 am to
Everybody knows we will pay for the wall, it was just awesome watching the Media and GOPe and Dims freak out when the Mexicans would pay for it was said, it was awesome and still is.. Us Trumpkins are having fun with it, like with many things we chant about.. The left and GOPe have no sense of humor about anything it seems. Like the CNN sux chants, we are not just talking about CNN, we are talking all the media but CNN Suxs has a nice ring to it chanting it.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:30 am to
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That was the answer.What you and the rest of the haters can't seem to understand is this is Trump against the entire establishment...the Dem's and the Rino's. So this is not your traditional Kasich, Jeb, etc. business as usual (frick the Americans). It's going to be a battle. We will get the bare minimum from Ryan and McConnell this first year and into next. I mean his plan is to get rid of all these fricks who don't want to lose their gravy train...and they know it. So anything from those fricks is a "win". Laugh all you want, but we are being fricked left and right by both sides and he's taking them on...with no support, and all the distractions. I myself, appreciate what he is attempting...Done.


So you expect him to accomplish... nothing. And it is OK if he ramps up and starts some new wars, amiright?
Posted by EthanL
Auburn,AL
Member since Oct 2011
6963 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:45 am to
He has to build a big beautiful wall, and Mexico has to pay for it.

That is his win, and should be the consensus for all Trumpkins.

An orgasmic episodical win would be if liberals built the wall, Mexico pays for and maintained it, the bodies of democrat politicians were hung on stakes around it, and NATO was reassigned to guard it
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134860 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:49 am to
I'll take more BP agents and more/better surveillance/detection equipment for the areas with major gaps as a win. That would be far more effective than building a wall anyway.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13495 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:56 am to
Let's be realistic here. A southern wall cannot be built in a month or even one year. Some areas hardly need a wall and some areas need walls as tough as the Berlin Wall!

So Congress passing one year funding for construction of the most needed areas with a promise for continued funding each year until some future definition of completion, is a major win!

Trumpkin GOP gets their promised wall started, GOPe can claim fiscal responsibility, and DNC/MSM Political Complex can suck it!

WINNING
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 10:57 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98744 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:58 am to
Government shutdown for 2 weeks.

No one notices.

Congress buckles and funds the wall.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29166 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:59 am to
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I'll take more BP agents and more/better surveillance/detection equipment for the areas with major gaps as a win. That would be far more effective than building a wall anyway.


Yep, the wall is a stupid big government bridge to nowhere wasteful idea. Absolutely secure our borders but do so in a way that's actually effective.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 10:59 am to
Yes. Absolutely.

Prison is not a deterrent. Get these people treatment instead. Stigmatize drug usage through public health initiatives similar to what occurred with smoking.

Prohibition does not work.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18438 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:02 am to
I agree with you that people should be treated fro drug abuse rather than face prison, but I won't agree to legalize hardcore drugs. Maybe modify the law? It's illegal to sell it, not illegal to have it? Either way, it shouldn't go completely unchecked.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:04 am to
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Trump has claimed that


He issues a new lie on a daily basis.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:07 am to
Well the blind Trumpers will consider it a win even if he forces us to pay for the dumb thing. They're estimating the thing will cost 15-25 billion dollars. Some others are estimating it could be much more than that. Mexico isn't paying for the stupid thing.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13495 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:13 am to
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Well the blind Trumpers will consider it a win even if he forces us to pay for the dumb thing.

Trump knows this is a "read my lips" issue. And unlike GOPe, Bush I, he will do it!
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Mexico isn't paying for the stupid thing.

Renegotiated NAFTA!

5D Chess Master!
MAGA
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:59 pm to
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Everybody knows we will pay for the wall, it was just awesome watching the Media and GOPe and Dims freak out when the Mexicans would pay for it was said, it was awesome and still is.. Us Trumpkins are having fun with it, like with many things we chant about.. The left and GOPe have no sense of humor about anything it seems. Like the CNN sux chants, we are not just talking about CNN, we are talking all the media but CNN Suxs has a nice ring to it chanting it.


So you're just a bunch of children wasting money this time. Got it.
This post was edited on 8/27/17 at 6:04 am
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