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re: what was a 15 yr old girl doing at a party with older boys

Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:57 am to
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
19338 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:57 am to
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When the story falls apart and he IS the victim I won't feel the need to attack his character


This doesn't make any sense at all. Their is no equivalency between attacking the character of a woman who is almost certainly lying about attempted rape in an effort to destroy a man's life and attacking the character of Kavanaugh who will be proven to be a real victim.

Why is it wrong to attack the character of someone you think is lying? There is a reason that court cases have "character witnesses" and both sides try to impeach the character of the other sides witnesses. If someone's character is shady then it is much more likely that they are lying and casts a doubt on their statements. While if you can establish that someone has an impeccable character - which Kavanaugh seems to otherwise have - it is much easier to believe that they are the ones telling the truth.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4459 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:35 am to
This is insane. She is making an accusation and she doesn’t know where or when it happened. She has no supporting witness.

How do you disprove that? How do you rebut those assertions? How can anyone have an alibi for something like this. She should be booed out of the confirmation hearing.

The accusations aren’t concrete or factual. They are fluid. You can’t defend yourself from something like that.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:36 am to
Yeah. Why the hell were high school kids at the same party?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:38 am to
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She is making an accusation and she doesn’t know where or when it happened. She has no supporting witness.

How do you disprove that? How do you rebut those assertions?


#metoo #believewomen #toxicmasculinity #womenarebraveandfunnygetoverit

Bill Burr is proving to be more and more of a social prophet and important philosopher every day.

Him and Norm MacDonald are two of the most important comedians working today.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 6:40 am
Posted by FT
REDACTED
Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:39 am to
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She is no victim. She brought this on herself. Also don’t apply today’s standards to standards of 30 years ago. I feel bad for my kid cause if he is anything like his old man he’ll never be able to run for office. SOP back in the day was to go in for the kill and get turned down a couple time before giving up. If you don’t know that you didn’t Getty laid in high school
First, no means no. If she said no, she meant it.

Second, you and your kid suck.

Third, “go in for the kill”? You’re talking about engaging in intimate relations with a human, not teaching your wife a lesson.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123887 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:44 am to
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I see we have graduated to blaming the victim.
If she's lying, she's no victim.
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4459 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:49 am to
And her memory sucks, right. She’s already told us that.

She doesn’t remember where or even what year it happened. But we should trust her memory of who it was? And exactly what happened?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:50 am to
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First, no means no. If she said no, she meant it.

Second, you and your kid suck.


There is about to be a very confused, depressed, and destructive generation of lost boys. This should be concerning to all of us.

This idea of equating all male behavior, especially teenaged male behavior, with toxicity and evil and shame is an absolutely insane sentiment running rampant in society.

Rape and sexual assault is bad. No one is debating that.

But telling all teenage boys that their biological urges are wrong and further that if you act on those urges something is wrong with you? Chasing women and trying to mate is an innate natural biological instinct in men. As teenagers and young men we test and experiment with that instinct. Yes, there is a line, but to pretend, or worse teach, that every attempt to act on that instinct is evil and wrong is an extremely dangerous proposition.

This psychotically ignorant manifesto being pushed by progressives that our thoughts and feelings can overcome basic biology is incomprehendable to me.

At the youngest age in school boys are told being active and energetic is bad. Many of them are drugged and discouraged and disciplined just for being natural boys.

Then they are ousted in the education system for failing at a system set up by women for women.

Then they are berated and rebuked on the playground for bullying and rough housing when that again is just a natural part of life.

Then as teenagers they are taught and pressured constantly with the idea that natural masculinity is toxic and they should feel great shame about their natural urges.

This is not good. And it will lead to something horrible.
This post was edited on 9/18/18 at 6:55 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67858 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 6:56 am to
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Thanks to Kavanaugh's mom




I thought this party was at Stifler's mom's place.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42576 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 7:00 am to
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blaming the victim.


The only victim in this shitty smear job is Kavanaugh - and his family.

every DEMOCRAT lending support for this atrocity should be driven from office on a rail. GORers too

Travesties such as this have got to be the lowest form of attack
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:00 am to
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I see we have graduated to blaming the victim.


She hasn't proven yet that she is the victim.

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:06 am to
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There is about to be a very confused, depressed, and destructive generation of lost boys. This should be concerning to all of us.

This idea of equating all male behavior, especially teenaged male behavior, with toxicity and evil and shame is an absolutely insane sentiment running rampant in society.

Rape and sexual assault is bad. No one is debating that.

But telling all teenage boys that their biological urges are wrong and further that if you act on those urges something is wrong with you? Chasing women and trying to mate is an innate natural biological instinct in men. As teenagers and young men we test and experiment with that instinct. Yes, there is a line, but to pretend, or worse teach, that every attempt to act on that instinct is evil and wrong is an extremely dangerous proposition.

This psychotically ignorant manifesto being pushed by progressives that our thoughts and feelings can overcome basic biology is incomprehendable to me.

At the youngest age in school boys are told being active and energetic is bad. Many of them are drugged and discouraged and disciplined just for being natural boys.

Then they are ousted in the education system for failing at a system set up by women for women.

Then they are berated and rebuked on the playground for bullying and rough housing when that again is just a natural part of life.

Then as teenagers they are taught and pressured constantly with the idea that natural masculinity is toxic and they should feel great shame about their natural urges.

This is not good. And it will lead to something horrible.




You are soooooo correct.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:11 am to
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Yeah. Why the hell were high school kids at the same party?


To meet someone of the opposite sex and flirt with them.

Duh.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:17 am to
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So predictable. Blame the alleged victim


There is nothing wrong or sinister with questioning the veracity of the alleged victim when there is no supporting evidence for their accusation.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:17 am to
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There is nothing wrong or sinister with questioning the veracity of the alleged witness to the Loch Ness monster in the SF Bay when there is no supporting evidence for their accusation.


Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:24 am to
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Posted by DawgfaninCa on 9/17/18 at 7:55 pm to PsychTiger
Was she a virgin when she was 15 and went to the party



Well was she a virgin at the time?
Posted by Dawgholio
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
13047 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:25 am to
Sounds like this story was “reremembered” just a few weeks ago when inspired by the Democrats
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:29 am to
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There is nothing wrong or sinister with questioning the veracity of the alleged witness to the Loch Ness monster in the SF Bay when there is no supporting evidence for their accusation.


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Unlike her I have supporting evidence for my claim and I'm willing to take a lie detector test too.

When I pass the lie detector test are you going to believe me?

BTW, my brother and I intend to take a lie detector test very soon.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:42 am to
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Now her short haired lawyer says she had "only" 1 beer. She can’t remember who, what, where, or when but she knows she had 1 beer!


FIFY

Nobody has only one beer at a teenage party.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 8:51 am to
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Are we still pretending that she was ever at the same place as him, ever?


quote:

Where does that come from?


From the fact that she has no supporting evidence for her accusation and the fact that the witness she claimed was present during the alleged incident testified that the incident never happened.
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