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re: What Trump’s ‘Big, Beautiful Bill’ Is Really Doing (Part 2) | The Ezra Klein Show

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Posted by jrodLSUke
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How is this winning? The budget is a Progressives wet dream.

Then why are the progressives so against it? It’s a populist bill, for winners. Sorry you’re still in the loser libertarian side.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:03 am to
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They are. Would you insta believe their reporting?

No?

Why should we trust the NYT at face value?

So what did he lie about on this one?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:03 am to
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Why do you expect me to answer your questions when you don't answer mine?



I answered yours. " But look at Biden" is your and your cults go-to copout.

Y'all defend Trumps stupidity with the same voracity the MSM did Biden.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:04 am to
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Trumps showing some of the same signs. Again, explain his idiotic tariff rollout and the desire now to add 20% to the DoD budget? No healthy human is that wishy washy.



It’s just a stutter
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:04 am to
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Then why are the progressives so against it?


Party line bullshite.

Hell, they supported Joe's tarrifs, that should be enough to tell you their feigning disdain.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:04 am to
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Y'all defend Trumps stupidity with the same voracity the MSM did Biden.


Black Monday
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:05 am to
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It’s just a stutter


The deflections have become pathological.
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:06 am to
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So what did he lie about on this one?


My point is that it's reasonable to start from the position that he's an activist, not a journalist.

Sorry that means that people who do not share his political views will defaultly not believe his claims, but he only has himself to blame for that.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:06 am to
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Another midwit MAGA bro not engaging with the current bill passed by their Jesus.



What’s in the bill? Do you even know?


Let’s start there.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:06 am to
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Black Monday


Yeah we still haven't recovered all the way .....stocks still down ytd for Trump's first year. We recovered only when Trump flip flopped and put the breaks on his plan....
Posted by cssamerican
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:07 am to
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Increased spending. Increased deficit.

You're putting lipstick on a pig.

The actual bill.

This thing barely made it through. Without it, we’d be looking at tax hikes and zero rollback of federal red tape. So what’s the alternative? No bill at all? Higher taxes and more regulations? Sometimes you’ve got to take the win, even if it’s not perfect.

If we’re going to spend money on something, I’d much rather it go toward a missile defense system like the Golden Dome than propping up solar panels and wind farms with endless subsidies. At least missile defense serves a clear national security purpose, something that actually protects the country. Strategic defense spending makes a lot more sense than throwing billions at energy projects that can’t stand on their own without government backing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:08 am to
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We recovered only when Trump flip flopped and put the breaks on his plan...


The funniest part, is he low key admits trump flopping was a good thing.

The MAGAs have tried desperately to deflect from the fact that trump folded like a cheap lawn chair..
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:08 am to
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I answered yours. " But look at Biden" is your and your cults go-to copout.


What question was that answering?

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Y'all defend Trumps stupidity with the same voracity the MSM did Biden


When the Easter bunny is the handler for, supposedly, the most powerful man in the world, you can make this comparison.

Until then you're just making a fool of yourself.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:09 am to
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My point is that it's reasonable to start from the position that he's an activist, not a journalist.

My point is you've failed to add anything in a meaningful way to this discussion because you chose to stick your head in the sand vs listen to the topic and refute inaccuracies.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:09 am to
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When the Easter bunny is the handler for, supposedly, the most powerful man in the world, you can make this comparison.


Do you know why you make the comparison? Because Trump is so damn close to Joe that its hard to differentiate.

I expect better from the "opposition party." Unfortunately you folks do not.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:09 am to
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He;s spot on. The only MAGA retort seems to be "He;'s not Kamala or Joe." Hes more disappointing than either to me, because he is supposed to be the alternative, not complicit.



You voted for Harris.


No one with this much tds voted for Trump.



The op can’t even list one thing in the bill he disagrees with.


Just posts some YouTube video he wants us to watch because he can’t articulate his own thoughts.


And he’s calling others a midwit. Just more projection from you pinkos.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:11 am to
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You voted for Harris.


Youre an idiot, and a liar.

Which seems to be the qualifying factors for your cult
Posted by Azkiger
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:11 am to
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My point is you've failed to add anything in a meaningful way to this discussion because you chose to stick your head in the sand vs listen to the topic and refute inaccuracies.


Explaining how the political landscape currently works to those who don't understand it is certainly adding something to the discussion.

Rolling a NYT staffers claims into a thread here will go over just as well as posting Tucker content on bluesky.

How you can't understand that is beyond me.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:11 am to
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Yeah we still haven't recovered all the way .....stocks still down ytd for Trump's first year. We recovered only when Trump flip flopped and put the breaks on his plan....



Who is we?

I never lost money.


The truth is you bitches cry about everything. Everything the media lies about.

You were wrong. Like always.

Just like you guys were wrong about Biden.

This post was edited on 5/24/25 at 10:13 am
Posted by AndyJ
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Posted on 5/24/25 at 10:11 am to
We just dont love engaging with mentally ill, emotionally unstable, frothing at the mouth lunatics like you. Sorry
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