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re: What to do about friend who thinks computerized elections are easily rigged?
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:02 am to oklahogjr
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:02 am to oklahogjr
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Every example there involves people with inside knowledge, or position, a special skill, or potentially both. I wouldn't call those easy. What is your threshold for easy? Mine is I could easily instruct another person to do and execute without any special knowledge, skills, or other pre requisites for that person to execute.
I'm not even sure what your point is. That Vegas casinos are harder targets than your average bingo hall in small town America? That there are vastly greater security measures in place when it comes to regulatory practices and oversight of gaming machines vs voting machines? You asked for examples and I spent less than 5 minutes providing just that from the first page of a simple Google search. If I were willing to spend more time on this I'm quite positive I could find many more examples of people manipulating machines as well as how-to exploits online.
BTW it doesn't take sophisticated skills to hack vulnerable systems. Any pimple faced script kiddie can wreck havoc and cause millions in damages.
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:35 am to prplhze2000
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:49 am to LakeCharles
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There was some good evidence in 2020 that algorithms were used in the electronic vote tabulation system to convert a percentage from Trump to biden, and that percentage changed several times through election day. Richard Syrett had a recent podcast with a guy that has analyzed voting records in NY state and found a large number of people registered in multiple counties with votes recorded in each county registered. He also found that there is an algorithm that lets him predict the county voter record number from the state voter record that should not be possible, but seems to be the way that was used to "mark" the fake registrations. He has found the same thing in other states, but using different algorithms.
This was the Mike Lindell argument. It turns out there is not this evidence after all.
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Posted on 8/8/24 at 2:40 am to prplhze2000
It can be rigged since these big voting machine companies like Dominion do not have to allow access to the logs on the machine in the event their is a question about the results of the election. They also do not have to show the code running on the machine.
How the heck do they get away with this?
I dont think they used the machines though to steal the election in 2020...They had mail in ballots mailed to everyone and their dog. They got people to register to vote, and paid them for their ballot, and they probably had a copy of the states voter rolls so they knew which voters had not voted in a while and filled out ballots for those voters and dropped them in unsecure drop boxes.
How the heck do they get away with this?
I dont think they used the machines though to steal the election in 2020...They had mail in ballots mailed to everyone and their dog. They got people to register to vote, and paid them for their ballot, and they probably had a copy of the states voter rolls so they knew which voters had not voted in a while and filled out ballots for those voters and dropped them in unsecure drop boxes.
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 2:46 am
Posted on 8/8/24 at 9:03 am to McChowder
My point was never machines arent exploitable. It was simply they aren't easily exploitable all the time.
Election machines included, your talking crowded poll locations, and we don't have a single report of someone actually hacking one of these machines during an election. We especially don't have reports of nation wide people hacking all these individual machines.
While sure it's possible to hack machines with the correct knowledge and skills it's not exactly something anyone can do easily or something where the knowledge is found readily available. Above that while we might classify this as a vulnerability what risk rating do we apply to the vulnerability? Has there been even 1 security incident or intrusion we can verify? Let alone the 1 in every county using electronic voting to carry out this type of fraud and really move an election number....
The bottom line for me is machines can sometimes be exploited but usually take inside knowledge or some type of skill to execute, potentially a tools to. Be built based on the knowledge and skills, they aren't something easy that anyone could do or be walked through
Election machines included, your talking crowded poll locations, and we don't have a single report of someone actually hacking one of these machines during an election. We especially don't have reports of nation wide people hacking all these individual machines.
While sure it's possible to hack machines with the correct knowledge and skills it's not exactly something anyone can do easily or something where the knowledge is found readily available. Above that while we might classify this as a vulnerability what risk rating do we apply to the vulnerability? Has there been even 1 security incident or intrusion we can verify? Let alone the 1 in every county using electronic voting to carry out this type of fraud and really move an election number....
The bottom line for me is machines can sometimes be exploited but usually take inside knowledge or some type of skill to execute, potentially a tools to. Be built based on the knowledge and skills, they aren't something easy that anyone could do or be walked through
This post was edited on 8/8/24 at 9:04 am
Posted on 8/9/24 at 5:05 pm to Bard
quote:Proof?
Your idea was to show there was no way electronic voter fraud could exist, then when proven wrong you attempted to discount the proof.
Where was that video recorded? When was it recorded? Who were the individuals in the video?
If it was real you would want to include that information to support your claim.
THat's why Trump ran as a REpublican. Because you jackasses swallow the shite that Trumpaholics put out like guppies.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 5:07 pm to texridder
It’s the election supervisor for Coffey County, Georgia.
It’s not hard to find it. Unless you don’t want to find it.
It’s not hard to find it. Unless you don’t want to find it.
Posted on 8/9/24 at 5:10 pm to Mushroom1968
I hope you are right
Posted on 8/9/24 at 5:29 pm to the808bass
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It’s the election supervisor for Coffey County, Georgia.It’s not hard to find it. Unless you don’t want to find it.
How about Where and When?
And a link to where the name of the individual was identified.
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