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re: What most of you already know about the vaccine.

Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:02 am to
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:02 am to
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The mRNA platform has existed for decades, and every protein in your body is produced using the mRNA process. This is a new application for old technology.


So, you are admitting that this isn't a "vaccine" as that term has been defined in the past.




Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:07 am to
Muh gene therapy, duhhh...
Posted by Grinder
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:10 am to
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So, you are admitting that this isn't a "vaccine" as that term has been defined in the past.


It is a vaccine.

Here’s the definition.

Vaccine - a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.


Could it be that you didn’t understand the definition of the word vaccine?

Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:11 am to
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you’ll understand why the medical community has embraced these vaccines.



Well, at least those members of the medical community who march in goosestep with the approved politicized agenda of the government and their Komrades in the MSM.

Other members of the medical community -- including world-class virologists and the actually inventor of mRNA technology -- are cancelled and deplatformed. And, the government's henchmen in social media (FB, Twitter, YouTube, etc.) have spent an inordinate amount of time and money constantly monitoring their sites so that they can dutifully fulfill their roles as the Gestapo and erase ANYTHING that doesn't follow the regimes approved narrative.

THAT ALONE should tell you all you need to know. But, clearly you are incapable of thinking for yourself and easily figuring it out.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:12 am
Posted by jimmyjohn19
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:11 am to
"In effect, you have modified your own genetic make-up to fight COVID"


No, you have not. This MRNA does have enter the nucleus of your cell - it remains within the cytoplasm. Your DNA is not being modified.

This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:12 am
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:18 am to
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"In effect, you have modified your own genetic make-up to fight COVID"


No, you have not. This MRNA does have enter the nucleus of your cell - it remains within the cytoplasm. Your DNA is not being modified
You can't argue with their level of ignorance. They don't know the basics.
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:19 am to
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Vaccine - a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.


That's NOT what this is or what it does.

Just as an example, it does not provide immunity. After promising it would do that in order to get people to take it, they are JUST NOW telling people that they never said that.

How many people on this site are F*CKING LYING saying that the government never said that it would give you immunity? We know the government did -- BUT THEY F*CKING LIED. And now they're lying again saying they never said it would provide immunity.

Further, the mRNA isn't like any other vaccine that was "prepared from the causative agent of a disease." This is something totally different.

And, there is NO ONE on this entire f*cking site that really knows what this thing actually does. Everyone (including myself) are simply regurgitating crap that we read on the internet -- and we ALL have engaged in confirmation bias in deciding which information we decided to regurgitate and quote. And, to be ABSOLUTELY F*CKING CLEAR, I include myself in that statement. We're all f*cking idiots and can only believe what we can surmise from the information we read.

My biggest problem are the people who come on here and act like they are the world's foremost virologist and speak with such authority about something they don't have the first f*cking clue what they are talking about -- LIKE GRINDER.



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No, you have not. This MRNA does have enter the nucleus of your cell - it remains within the cytoplasm. Your DNA is not being modified.


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jimmyjohn19


At least say that this was just something that you read on the internet and decided to regurgitate because it's what you want to believe. And, of course, we all know that if it's on the internet -- you can believe it without questioning.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 8:27 am
Posted by BigJim
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:20 am to
Well if Jim from the Daily Reckoning says so….

How are y’all so skeptical of the CDC and big pharma but not sketchy blog posts?
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 10:23 am
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:24 am to
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Now this is an honest question from an ignorant non vaccine developer. Why


10000 ft overview:
Researchers have been working with mRNA, or more precisely how to get mRNA into cells effectively, for quite some time. This has been both in regards to potential vaccines and potential cancer therapies. The issue has always been how to effectively transport the mRNA into the cell, and how to make it stable. This research was cruising along until a global pandemic pushed it into overdrive.
The reason the technology is appealing is because synthesizing a segment of mRNA is relatively quick and easy. Once the transport problem was solved, you now have an easily customizable platform. With this platform, a new vaccine could be ready to start trials much faster than before.
Posted by fjlee90
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:31 am to
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Researchers have been working with mRNA, or more precisely how to get mRNA into cells effectively, for quite some time. This has been both in regards to potential vaccines and potential cancer therapies. The issue has always been how to effectively transport the mRNA into the cell, and how to make it stable. This research was cruising along until a global pandemic pushed it into overdrive.
The reason the technology is appealing is because synthesizing a segment of mRNA is relatively quick and easy. Once the transport problem was solved, you now have an easily customizable platform. With this platform, a new vaccine could be ready to start trials much faster than before.


This may be one of the more informative and understandable posts on the PT. You won't fit in here.

That said, since the transportation problem appears to be solved, is there a focus on enhancing the mRNA vaccines to be more effective?

Lot of folks get vaccinated but still get sick or transmit the virus, allegedly. Not denying the help the vaccine provides in minimizing the effects.
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:32 am to
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Once the transport problem was solved, you now have an easily customizable platform. With this platform, a new vaccine could be ready to start trials much faster than before.


At least site the webpage that you are regurgitating from Dr., Ph.D.

Please explain why a real expert, Dr. Robert Malone, is, at the very least, "skeptical" of these "vaccines"?

I'm sure you are infinitely more qualified that Dr. Malone so you can clear up why he is wrong.
Posted by Whichwayisup
Member since Jun 2021
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:32 am to
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How are y’all so skeptical of the CDC and bug pharma but not sketchy blog posts?


The NIH disperses $41 billion dollars yearly, that surely is a reason to distrust the so called "science". This is the lively hood of these Universities, Labs and "Scientist", they are NOT going to bite the hand that feeds them.

There are plenty of doctors that disagree with the "science" and have come up with better ways to treat the virus
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:33 am to
no shite
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:35 am to
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My biggest problem are the people who come on here and act like they are the world's foremost virologist and speak with such authority about something they don't have the first f*cking clue what they are talking about -- LIKE GRINDER.


You sure are excitable.

By the way, I did genetics research for the Department of Defense in the late 1990s. I understand this technology, although I’ve moved on in my career.

No one is out to get you. It won’t make any difference to explain all of this to you, so I’m not going to try. But the topic is fascinating.

Learn the basics, like GATC.
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:38 am to
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By the way, I did genetics research for the Department of Defense in the late 1990s.



At least admit that you really don't have the first f*cking clue what you are talking about and you are merely regurgitating CRAP that you read on the internet and wanted to believe.

Genetics research in the 1990s does not make you an expert. In fact, it has apparently given you an overinflated sense of your own ignorant opinion.
Posted by oldskule
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:40 am to
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But these vaccines do not prevent you from being infected or spreading it to others


There you go...

So how can a company fire you for not being vaccinated????
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:44 am to
No how I know the quote you used is bullshite?

mRNA is not a long term genetic code. It is highly susceptible to degradation and is broken down in the cells quickly. It is a template to code for a gene temporarily. No copies of the mRNA are made and the spike proteins will degrade over time as well. They don’t just float around your cells for eternity.

This is why the fact you believe this shite is astonishing. You literally will buy any statement that makes this shite to be some huge conspiracy, even if it goes against actual facts.

Immunity can one partial first off. You can have some resistance to a pathogen. Secondly, the entire point is to expose your system to a piece of the virus to identify and react to it more quickly. That is what a vaccine is. It does not need to be an attenuated version of the virus nor the whole virus.

I work in the field and to be honest many doctors and scientists that do not specialize in this area think they know what they are talking about and have no frickin idea.

In the end, just make sure you stop buying into propaganda from any sides and make an actual educated decision for yourself.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 9:02 am
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:47 am to
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Geauxgurt


Since you speak with such authority and you believe that you are clearly one of the foremost experts in virology, then please let us know your credentials so we can determine if you have the first f*cking clue what you're talking about OR are just regurgitating something you read on the internet.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:47 am to
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James G. Rickards is the editor of Strategic Intelligence, Project Prophesy, Crash Speculator, and Gold Speculator. He is an American lawyer, economist, and investment banker with 40 years of experience working in capital markets on Wall Street.
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Quoted——
The Vaccines Aren’t Really Vaccines
Great source. Brave post. Hats off.
Posted by yallallcrazy
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 8:48 am to
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is there a focus on enhancing the mRNA vaccine



The vaccine worked well vs the original, but some variants ( delta in particular ) have enough ‘drift’ in the nature of the spikes and how they work that the vaccine is less effective. BTW, there are many thousands of variations of the virus, but only a few that have changes that are an issue.

Actually, there is work being done to shift the mRNA to enhance coverage of mutations. And, yes , that would mean more shots! I can’t wait for the eruption of ‘science’ on here when that comes out.
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