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re: What is your personal definition of "globalism" ?

Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:00 pm to
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Your dishonesty isn't helping you


Maybe I need to rethink whether you're trolling or not.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483794 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:03 pm to
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Sovereignty is the ability for a nation to govern itself. If you can't choose your own leader how are you governing yourself?


You're engaging in the same conflation and trying to define terms to get out of it. It's still the same conflation.

Now this is where your point has been refuted and you refuse to waive the white flag and engage in the ad homs you attempted earlier, I reckon.

That's your pattern
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483794 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:03 pm to
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Maybe I need to rethink whether you're trolling or not.

I don't have a problem following discussions.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28945 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:03 pm to
You're free to offer up a counter definition.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28945 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:04 pm to
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I don't have a problem following discussions.


Sure you do. You derail threads all the time.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
74573 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:06 pm to
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Maybe I need to rethink whether you're trolling or not.



Of course he is, the guy doesn’t have an honest bone in his body
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483794 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:08 pm to
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You're free to offer up a counter definition.

I already did when I explained your conflation.

You can't "define yourself out of the conflation"

While there is a tangential relationship in certain aspects of sovereignty and leadership, they are not the same concept. Sovereignty is an existential status of a state. The leaders of that state are transitory and, unless you're dealing with an autocrat, have little direct relationship with exerting the sovereignty of a state to which they're associated.

You're conflating the two.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483794 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:08 pm to
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Sure you do. You derail threads all the time.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:10 pm to
I give Azkiger credit. He has presented one of the wildest arguments I've ever seen on here. If a country has a leader by virtue of a rigged election, they no longer have sovereignty.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28945 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:12 pm to
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Sovereignty is an existential status of a state.


Thats not quite a definition.

Try again.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483794 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:14 pm to
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I give Azkiger credit. He has presented one of the wildest arguments I've ever seen on here. If a country has a leader by virtue of a rigged election, they no longer have sovereignty.

It's even more nonsensical when you go back to my original post, and permit 2020-like insanity to determine that. It just adds another layer of irrationality akin to the problems in defining the term itself.

This is what they want, a mess of no definitions/distinctions to paint their masterpieces
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483794 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:15 pm to
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Thats not quite a definition.

I don't need to define it further to show your conflation

My prophecy is being fulfilled

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Now this is where your point has been refuted and you refuse to waive the white flag and engage in the ad homs you attempted earlier, I reckon.


I'm sure you're going to try to be Big-Brained and claim I'm not "following the conversation" now
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28945 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:15 pm to
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If a country has a leader by virtue of a rigged election, they no longer have sovereignty


For the third time, my question is:

"How can the removal of a nation's unelected leader be an attack on its sovereignty?"

No where in that do I say that rigged elections=absolutely zero sovereignty.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28945 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:16 pm to
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I don't need to define it further to show your conflation


How can you prove conflating terms without defining said terms?

As I said, 80-85 IQ.
This post was edited on 9/27/26 at 1:17 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483794 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:17 pm to
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How can you prove conflating terms without defining said terms?

I defined them enough to show the conflation. I don't need to define them further.

quote:

As I said, 80-85 IQ.

Dunning Kruger Effect on display

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it isn't true. That's not my burden.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28945 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:19 pm to
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I defined them enough to show the conflation. I don't need to define them further.


Yes you do. And there's a reason you're refusing to do so.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
74573 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:20 pm to
He can’t see it, he’s not smart enough. The irony is hilarious
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28945 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:21 pm to
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He can’t see it, he’s not smart enough.


Yeah, I'm probably giving him too much credit
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483794 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:23 pm to
I'll do the analysis for you

Is the statement "Sovereignty is a condition of existence of a state" true? Yes

Is the statement "A leader is a part of the government and transitory in terms of existence" true? Yes

Does this information show a distinction in the terms? Yes

Is trying to lump two distinct terms as the same concept conflation? Yes

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483794 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 1:23 pm to
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Yes you do. And there's a reason you're refusing to do so.

Nope. I just did the analysis you apparently lack the ability to do, for you
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