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re: What is climate change ?
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:01 am to CoachChappy
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:01 am to CoachChappy
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I large scale volcanic eruption would put more CO2 into the atmosphere in 1 day than man has in its entire existence
Is this statement true?
I found this Forbes article with a google search:
.How Much CO2 Does A Single Volcano Emit?
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Add all of these up, and you get an estimate of around 645 million tons of CO2 per year. Yes, there are uncertainties; yes, there’s annual variation; yes, it’s easy to get led astray if you think that Mt. Etna is typical, rather than the unusually large emitter of CO2 that it is. When you realize that volcanism contributes 645 million tons of CO2 per year – and it becomes clearer if you write it as 0.645 billion tons of CO2 per year – compared to humanity’s 29 billion tons per year, it’s overwhelmingly clear what’s caused the carbon dioxide increase in Earth’s atmosphere since 1750.
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In fact, even if we include the rare, very large volcanic eruptions, like 1980's Mount St. Helens or 1991's Mount Pinatubo eruption, they only emitted 10 and 50 million tons of CO2 each, respectively. It would take three Mount St. Helens and one Mount Pinatubo eruption every day to equal the amount that humanity is presently emitting.
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:13 am to ApexTiger
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My son told me his teacher suggested it means man (pollutants) is creating inconstancy in our weather.
Thought religion wasn’t allowed in school?
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:13 am to ApexTiger
Maybe it's like global menopause.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:19 am to ApexTiger
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I want to understand...
This is all you need to remember. Climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the population control hoaxsters.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:22 am to auggie
Climate change is a hoax Proper use of decimal points, significant digits and analytical capability would show no relationship between co2 and climate
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:22 am to Jimbeaux
All one has to do is look at the numerous examples of climate refugees around the world happening and soon-to-happen. Hell, just look at the consistent flooding of south beach during high tides. It used to only happen twice a year. New York is considering a sea wall and parts of south Bronx and Queens have been long considered by the city a lost cause. This is one subject this board will look very stupid on in the next 30 years. These spikes in the atmosphere coincide with the industrial revolution. I’m sure this comment will get a lot of shitposts but I wouldn’t expect much else.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:10 am to Trevaylin
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Climate change is a hoax Proper use of decimal points, significant digits and analytical capability would show no relationship between co2 and climate
so it's like menopause then?
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:11 am to bmy
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How old is your son? Hard to judge that answer without context
16
sophomore
Taking AP Environmental Science class
Says teacher is very matter of fact on the subject
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:16 am to ApexTiger
It's the result of less longwave radiation leaving the atmosphere than before due to more CO2 and other GH gasses in the atmosphere absorbing and readmitting the radiation.
Warms the surface, which warms the troposphere over time. Increasing the potential for weather events to be more impactful due to more rain, increasing the pace of rapid intensification in hurricanes that get to RI, frequency of droughts, ect.
Warms the surface, which warms the troposphere over time. Increasing the potential for weather events to be more impactful due to more rain, increasing the pace of rapid intensification in hurricanes that get to RI, frequency of droughts, ect.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:18 am to 337Tiger19
so, slightly higher sea levels, due to melting glaciers, proves manmade climate change?
How do you know, that the glaciers aren't melting due to increased seismic activity, increasing temps underneath the glaciers?
How do you know, that the glaciers aren't melting due to increased seismic activity, increasing temps underneath the glaciers?
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:22 am to ApexTiger
The natural ebb and flow of global temperatures and global weather patterns that play out over hundreds of thousands of years that can not be stopped or changed.
It is used to scare the young and weak minded to give their support to people that want to control the world.
People that want to end the relative new situation where people are free, equal and self governing with property rights and the ability to defend them and the inalienable rights or being a free person.
They want to return the world to the ruling class and everyone else being a surf.
What happened to global cooling and the ice age we were taught in school 40 years ago? Then 15 years ago it was global warming. Now it’s climate change. It’s a ploy for power and money from the powerful to control the weak.
It is used to scare the young and weak minded to give their support to people that want to control the world.
People that want to end the relative new situation where people are free, equal and self governing with property rights and the ability to defend them and the inalienable rights or being a free person.
They want to return the world to the ruling class and everyone else being a surf.
What happened to global cooling and the ice age we were taught in school 40 years ago? Then 15 years ago it was global warming. Now it’s climate change. It’s a ploy for power and money from the powerful to control the weak.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:26 am to ApexTiger
It's melting in one place and freezing solid in another. So it's really a wash.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:27 am to ApexTiger
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16
sophomore
Taking AP Environmental Science class
Says teacher is very matter of fact on the subject
Virtually no climate scientists would say that man could not or doea not play a role. The few scientists who disagree stick to debate around the degree of impact caused by man.
It's a fact that man can alter weather patterns.. and climate is nothing but long term weather patterns.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 11:48 am
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:29 am to 337Tiger19
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All one has to do is look at the numerous examples of climate refugees around the world
See, this statement just seems absurd without specifics AND data to show that it’s related to man-made climate change.
Can we agree that the climate has always changed, with obvious variability on the rate of change?
Also, can we agree that a “climate refugee” is a vague term, but if you mean people displaced by draughts, floods, hurricanes, forest fires, etc., wouldn’t a person need to show a spike in these events and/or amount of refugees compared to other periods in order to make the claim that it’s worse now because of man-made climate change?
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Hell, just look at the consistent flooding of south beach during high tides. It used to only happen twice a year.
I don’t know the historical record of high tide flooding at south beach, but it would be helpful to the argument if this was actually shown by historical data and not just memory. Can we agree that people’s memories of past weather events and conditions and their frequencies can get distorted very easily?
Also, can we agree that localized flooding at one location may be caused by a number of factors including subsidence?
Also, can we agree that a steady rate of sea level rise since records were kept in the late 1800’s is not what one would expect from a recent increase in the rate of warming due to CO2 emissions, but would more likely be a sign of a longer trend perhaps of an earth cycle of coming out of an ice age (or little ice age)?
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 11:40 am
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:38 am to bmy
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The few scientists who disagree stick to debate around the degree of impact caused by man.
And the equally important debates of:
1) What can reasonably be done to effectively reduce emissions in significant magnitude to arrest the warming.
2) The magnitude of the negative and the positive effects of warming over time.
3) The relative costs in terms of money, resources, and human lives in comparing the options of a) attempting to significantly reduce emissions enough to arrest the warming, and b) responding to the human crises as they arise in immediate anticipation and after the fact.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:41 am to ApexTiger
Your sons teacher is as dumb as the others who proclaim the same or similar. Climate change is what has taken place since the beginning of time. Man can hardly control what the weather does.
However, Climate Change, Global Warming, Global Cooling has always been about a power grab from the left. To control Americans, to control influence, to control governing the people.
We can have common sense policies to be mindful of resources and waste, but the extremes that the left proposes is merely to erode freedoms and choice.
However, Climate Change, Global Warming, Global Cooling has always been about a power grab from the left. To control Americans, to control influence, to control governing the people.
We can have common sense policies to be mindful of resources and waste, but the extremes that the left proposes is merely to erode freedoms and choice.
This post was edited on 3/17/19 at 11:42 am
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:01 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Emphasizing (and deploying) solar and wind energy technologies, requiring more efficient appliances & passenger cars, afforestation and stopping deforestation could reach IPCC goals without even bringing industrial emissions into the mix. Sure sounds like a power grab.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:02 pm to Jimbeaux
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Also, can we agree that localized flooding at one location may be caused by a number of factors including subsidence?
King tides are well documented, not just from people’s memory.
Miami flooding is caused by sea levels rising.
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