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What country is safe?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:20 pm
I’m 40, so I think the USA will probably be ok, at least through my 70s. But my kids are screwed. Do we start getting dual citizenship in Australia?
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:21 pm to AndyJ
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Do we start getting dual citizenship in Australia?
I've heard Ireland is friendly to American ex-pats, and their tax policy doesn't penalize achievement.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:21 pm to AndyJ
Its pricey. And you gotta bring a trade or more money
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:21 pm to VoxDawg
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I've heard Ireland is friendly to American ex-pats, and their tax policy doesn't penalize achievement.
And they're raging liberals
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:22 pm to AndyJ
Safe has to mean stable government, too. Also, it has to be a country with good hospitals and reasonable taxes -- those big parts of the expat challenge.
I've thought some about this for me, not my (grown) kids.
I've thought some about this for me, not my (grown) kids.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:25 pm to AndyJ
google "five flag theory" and "W.G. Hill"
flag theory
now if the globalists take over completely...it may not really matter
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The original Three Flag Theory – credited to the investor, Harry D. Shultz — dates back to the 1960s.
Three Flag Theory was born in an era when the world was much less transparent and the only people who could afford the lifestyle Schultz described were the kind of folks who sat around in Hugh Hefner-style smoking jackets and cruised around the world on their yachts.
Even so, his recommendations had merit. He proposed that those who wanted to protect themselves and their wealth should plant three different flags:
Second Passport: Have a second citizenship as a backup plan.
Offshore Incorporation: Set up your business overseas to reduce taxes.
Playgrounds: Have an address in a tax haven and spend your time ‘playing’ (i.e. shopping, vacationing, living) in places that will not tax you.
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W.G. Hill was the most influential person to expand on the theory. In the 80s and 90s, he added to and modified the original three flags and then created two new flag-planting strategies for greater diversification.
The full Five Flag Theory, as it came to be known, promoted the following:
Second Passport: Besides acting as a backup plan, Hill added that the second citizenship should be from a country that does not tax non-resident income.
Business Haven: Set up your business in a stable tax haven.
Playgrounds: Spend your time and money in places with no sales tax or VAT.
Legal Residence: Obtain a second residence in a tax haven to get all the benefits of living in a place without all the tax obligations of citizenship.
Asset Haven: Store your assets offshore and get an offshore bank account in a country with stable banking.
flag theory
now if the globalists take over completely...it may not really matter
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:29 pm to TigerCoon
Thanks for these responses. I no longer have confidence in the future of this country... I don’t know if that means in 20 years or 100. But we will never get past slavery here, and these marches are beyond even that now.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:30 pm to AndyJ
Russia is actually a very conservative country these days who value traditional concepts like marriage and 2 parent families along with capitalism.
It would be the first place I would look right now.
It would be the first place I would look right now.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:37 pm to notsince98
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Russia is actually a very conservative country these days who value traditional concepts like marriage and 2 parent families along with capitalism.
It would be the first place I would look right now.
Russia is a massive culture and climate shock to anyone from Louisiana. Seems extreme.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:38 pm to AndyJ
Poland, Hungary
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:39 pm to LordSaintly
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Russia is a massive culture and climate shock to anyone from Louisiana. Seems extreme.
Not to mention, it’s fricking cold and the language is impossible to learn
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:41 pm to AndyJ
There aren't any real options IMO.
European countries were holdouts (perhaps more than Australia) on some of the critical theories, although they arguably laid the groundwork for said theories.
But increasingly you're seeing CRT and the like exported to Europe and take hold. I've seen some typical decolonize the classroom shite coming from UK educational circles lately.
Russia is certainly more conservative, but like any state that isn't truly western, you're giving up liberalism. The state will monitor and control and punish you in a way that is far more overt than the underhand shite here. Capitalist? Sure. But they can take it from you for sham reasons and you're battling in a marketplace of nearly universal corruption backed by the state.
All that said, there is some appeal to moving somewhere more progressive just to not watch the US slide into something unrecognizable. At least in Scotland or Austria (I have no idea how hard it is to get residency in these places - I assume quite hard) you live under a system that was already in place. It wasn't put in place by your fellow countrymen while you watch in disbelief.
European countries were holdouts (perhaps more than Australia) on some of the critical theories, although they arguably laid the groundwork for said theories.
But increasingly you're seeing CRT and the like exported to Europe and take hold. I've seen some typical decolonize the classroom shite coming from UK educational circles lately.
Russia is certainly more conservative, but like any state that isn't truly western, you're giving up liberalism. The state will monitor and control and punish you in a way that is far more overt than the underhand shite here. Capitalist? Sure. But they can take it from you for sham reasons and you're battling in a marketplace of nearly universal corruption backed by the state.
All that said, there is some appeal to moving somewhere more progressive just to not watch the US slide into something unrecognizable. At least in Scotland or Austria (I have no idea how hard it is to get residency in these places - I assume quite hard) you live under a system that was already in place. It wasn't put in place by your fellow countrymen while you watch in disbelief.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:41 pm to notsince98
quote:Russia is a complete shithole.
Russia is actually a very conservative country these days who value traditional concepts like marriage and 2 parent families along with capitalism.
It would be the first place I would look right now.
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As of 2018 nearly a third of all Russia’s medical facilities had no running water and more than half lacked hot water. Around 40% lacked central heating and in 35% the sewage didn’t work.
LINK
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:46 pm to Wtodd
[quote]And they're raging liberals[/quote
This. They are woke in Ireland in a large way so no.
This. They are woke in Ireland in a large way so no.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:46 pm to LordSaintly
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Russia is a massive culture and climate shock to anyone from Louisiana. Seems extreme.
Fair point.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:50 pm to AndyJ
just reside in a Red State for now. I think they'll be safe for the foreseeable future.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:55 pm to TS1926
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This. They are woke in Ireland in a large way so no.
Ireland never had slaves and has generally been at the bottom of the pecking order always getting their arse kicked by England. They have a population that is over 90% European with 82% of that being native Irish. I don't see the mob coming after the Irish for the skeletons of their past because in the past the Irish almost always came on the losing end.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:57 pm to notsince98
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Fair point.
I have to question the original response regarding Russia. He pulled that from Twitter so I can't really verify the accuracy. A lot of people still conflate "Russia" with other former Soviet states. Ukraine being one of them and which is a shite hole.
Russia is not that bad. I've been there. They have health facilities' that are government ran and they have private health facilities. The costs of the private facilities are not anywhere what you would pay here in the U.S. for many procedures.
The biggest issue you would have of course is the language barrier which could be very difficult. The Russian people however, are really good people and the women are very beautiful!
I'm of course biased because I'm married to one.
About the climate, it's a myth. Large parts of Russia have moderate climates including Moscow. It can be quite cold in the winter but summers are mild to actually hot. Only in regions like Siberia and areas above the arctic circle are temperatures extreme.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:02 pm to AndyJ
Isn't Australia bat shite lefty now a days too?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:02 pm to AndyJ
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What country is safe?
Define "safe".
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