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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:29 pm to
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So every climate scientist that thinks man made climate change is real is stupid and just glossed over information that literally anyone with critical thinking skills would easily catch?
No. you need to be able to sum an energy balance, understand what a residual is, and look at sensitivities to modeler-chosen values. But hey you are good at counting things. Let’s just go with that

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There are thousands of climate scientists that just aren't as adept at catching these things as you? Does that seem likely to be true?
where did I claim that. You do realize climate modelers are the butt of many jokes in the modeling community, right? You literally have no domain knowledge here—but are convinced you are smarter. It’s entertaining as it it curious to me.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2280 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:31 pm to
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It's a multivariate model, self serving or not.


Didn't realize it was necessary to specify a multivariate model that wasn't bullshite.

Was hoping for a stochastic Navier-Stokes model at the very least.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:32 pm to
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I'm guessing you're an old mfer.

Hey, hey...


...HEY!

Next thing you know you're going to be calling people "drunks".
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:32 pm to
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Says the guy that gravitates toward the conspiracy theory explanation.
Da fuq?

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I'm guessing you're an old mfer.
i guess early 40’s is the new 80. You’re as crappy of a mind reader as you are a “scientist”.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:33 pm to
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I do, which is why it was so easy.

You do t, which is why you think you’re right! It’s hilarious.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:34 pm to
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What I meant was that your statement shows that you don't understand how a scientific hypothesis is formulated - let alone how it's tested.
I’m just going to laugh at you. Too stupid to argue with.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 3:35 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:35 pm to
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It's a multivariate model, self serving or not.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33351 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:36 pm to
Can’t argue with him. Like talking to a wall. Soon he’ll be calling you a racist. It’s like clockwork
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:36 pm to
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Didn't realize it was necessary to specify a multivariate model that wasn't bullshite.


He probably should have been more specific. Really, though, the IPCC has what he's looking for, he's just too lazy or incompetent to do his own work. Or maybe he won't like what he finds and knows it.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:37 pm to
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I’m just going to laugh at you


You do that a lot when you're asked to explain something clearly beyond your level.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:37 pm to
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Was hoping for a stochastic Navier-Stokes model at the very least.
Climate modelers don’t even want to try 3D modeling.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:38 pm to
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Hey, hey...


...HEY!

Next thing you know you're going to be calling people "drunks".

Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:38 pm to
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Soon he’ll be calling you a racist. It’s like clockwork
Its usually “Trump supporter” first.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173659 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:42 pm to
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I’m just going to laugh at you. Too stupid to argue with

Rich coming from a conspiracy theorist.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:44 pm to
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The role of clouds in the climate system continues to challenge the modelling of climate (e.g., Chapter 7, Section 7.2.2). It is generally accepted that the net effect of clouds on the radiative balance of the planet is negative and has an average magnitude of about 10 to 20 Wm-2. This balance consists of a short-wave cooling (the albedo effect) of about 40 to 50 Wm-2 and a long-wave warming of about 30 Wm-2. Unfortunately, the size of the uncertainties in this budget is large when compared to the expected anthropogenic greenhouse forcing. Although we know that the overall net effect of clouds on the radiative balance is slightly negative, we do not know the sign of cloud feedback with respect to the increase of greenhouse gases, and it may vary with the region. In fact, the basic issue of the nature of the future cloud feedback is not clear. Will it remain negative?

...

And yet, this question of cloud feedback remains open, and it is not clear how it will be answered. Given that the current generation of global climate models represents the Earth in terms of grid-points spaced roughly 200 km apart, many features observed on smaller scales, such as individual cloud systems and cloud geometry, are not explicitly resolved.



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he's just too lazy or incompetent to do his own work. Or maybe he won't like what he finds and knows it.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63323 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:46 pm to
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Rich coming from a conspiracy theorist.
Like I said... isht quality modeling is a poor “consipiracy theory”. But keep holding onto that. Your projection makes you seem smarter. More intellectual.
Posted by SleauxPlay
Here and there
Member since Oct 2005
3433 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:48 pm to
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Powerman




Has this devolved to SR projecting his intellectual insecurities yet? Nothing better than trying to win an argument via a paper-thin ego squawking for attention.
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
2280 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:48 pm to
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too lazy or incompetent to do his own work.


I'd put you firmly in this category as well.

Because I'm a nice guy, here's your best argument in the current meteorological literature: LINK

Let me know when you're ready for the accompanying technical discussion.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:54 pm to
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trying to win an argument via a paper-thin ego squawking for attention.

Wait, isn't this the TTWAAVAPTESFA Board?

Anyone looking for rational discussion regarding the climate on this board is on a fool's errand.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:55 pm to
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SleauxPlay
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Has this devolved to SR projecting his intellectual insecurities yet? Nothing better than trying to win an argument via a paper-thin ego squawking for attention


How did you post this response from your dramatically slow down internet caused by net neutrality?

Armageddon hasn't hit your house yet
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