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re: What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:13 pm to
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97% of climate scientists is consensus
You do know that even climate scientists don't use the 97% number, right?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:13 pm to
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Published isht modeling is a consipiracy? It’s a crappy one. Because it’s on full display to anyone with some critical thought and basic thermo modeling skills.

So every climate scientist that thinks man made climate change is real is stupid and just glossed over information that literally anyone with critical thinking skills would easily catch?

There are thousands of climate scientists that just aren't as adept at catching these things as you? Does that seem likely to be true?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:13 pm to
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97% of climate scientists is consensus.


Not that you have any valid points in this argument, or any for that matter, but you really do yourself a disservice when you parrot that repeatedly exposed lie.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:15 pm to
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But it is the height of arrogance to suggest that we're even a significant cause, much less the sole or primary cause.


THIS!


Climatologist agree that Man has an impact, but at a minute scale. But then the 97% is thrown out, which is made up of mainly the Bill Nyes of the world and not climatologist. Ignore the multiple ice ages, 1000s of cooling/heating cycles...But now, any change in weather, storm, draught, flood, heat wave, No SNOW in the month of January for Chicago, etc. is a direct cause from man.

My favorite outrage is when its the hottest day on record..."Hottest day since 1896, when are you Deniers gonna admit, Man Made Climate Change exist"!! I don't deny man has an Impact, Just not on the scale as you. My question to you is, why the hell was it so hot in 1896? Was that caused by man or Natural? I'm still waiting for an answer..anyone?...anyone???

This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:15 pm to
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I've seen what you think is rational.

Link?

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You have a problem with my source of income?

Not really, I'm glad you're there to flip my burger.

ETA: Interestingly enough, I keep getting called away to help one of the staff run a model.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175468 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:20 pm to
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So compliant. So well programmed.

Says the guy that gravitates toward the conspiracy theory explanation.

I'm guessing you're an old mfer.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:22 pm to
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You do know that even climate scientists don't use the 97% number, right?


You do know that they do, right?
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19141 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:23 pm to
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What are your reasons for believing climate change is "a hoax"

I agree with George Carlin:

LINK

The planet is not the problem.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:23 pm to
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you apparently don’t even know what you’re looking at.


I do, which is why it was so easy.

Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:24 pm to
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AKA data. Lots of it.





If I take 2 Trillion individual temperature measurements over the course of this week, would you say I have "lots of data" about the climate?

I mean, there certainly is a great quantity of data, but quantity does not equal quality.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:24 pm to
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That why your request for it is inane


What I meant was that your statement shows that you don't understand how a scientific hypothesis is formulated - let alone how it's tested.

It's pretty obvious that you don't know shite about science from this thread and others, but then you have to go and spell it out. Well, maybe next time you'll do better, but I doubt it!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:24 pm to
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You do know that they do, right?


False
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63849 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:25 pm to
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I will add that all good science makes predictions. Predictions, that if they don't occur, invalidate some, most or even all of the science they were based on.

Climate science is not encumbered by this. They just say “the observations were wrong”. And self-congratulate on how if the observations had been correct they’d been dead nuts right.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:25 pm to
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LOL. Curve fitting. Come on dude.

There is nothing more self serving in data analysis than curve fitting.


It's a multivariate model, self serving or not.

Like I said, easy peasy.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:25 pm to
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150 years is "lots" of Data?


When combined with consistent core samples, sure is.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:27 pm to
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When combined with consistent core samples, sure is.

Well............other than it being .000000048% of available Earth time...........
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:27 pm to
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If I take 2 Trillion individual temperature measurements over the course of this week, would you say I have "lots of data" about the climate?



That's not what anyone is doing here.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:27 pm to
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False


It's true
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:28 pm to
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It's true


Nope
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
13051 posts
Posted on 3/7/18 at 3:29 pm to
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You do know that they do, right?


Wrong.

You do know many Climatologist, which were in the study, have spoke out about the "97%" as misleading... they agree that man has a role, but insignificant on the entire scale.
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