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re: What are online idea platforms if they aren’t “for free speech”?

Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:39 am to
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:39 am to
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Decatur


Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:41 am to
Success!

Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:41 am to
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DOJ definitely had cause to investigate whether members of Trump’s campaign were coordinating anything with Russian intelligence. Carter Page was a known Russian intelligence asset and Paul Manafort’s parter was a Russian intelligence officer. Russians hacked a whole bunch of people and used Wikileaks to spread that information in order to help Trump win. I’m glad we investigated and indicted when there was a criminal case to be made.
The fact that you still believe it is truly insane.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:43 am to
Everything you just quoted is true. Amazing to me that people are still having problems with the subject matter.
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Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:45 am to
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Everything you just quoted is true. Amazing to me that people are still having problems with the subject matter.
And you still won’t admit that there was no coordination and everyone involved was part of the Clinton campaign/DNC, as seen with the latest arrests, i.e. Danchenko.

Let’s not even talk about the actual data regarding the corruption between the Bidens and China.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 10:47 am
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:49 am to
Let’s not further derail this thread. Not my intent.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:54 am to
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Let’s not further derail this thread. Not my intent.
We aren’t actually having a discussion.

You hold the position that Twitter’s new stances are great and, IMO, you know it will be used to suppress what you believe to be wrongthink along with non-mainstream journalism.

I do not agree with the idea and support open discussion with little to no intervention from those you deem to be arbiters of truth.

We won’t see eye to eye, nor will we change each other’s views.

It is largely pointless and there really is no middle ground to meet on.

You will push the stance of “create your own platform”, which you and the other regressives will then force entities to remove from their stores and programs.

There is no middle ground to meet on with you regressives.

This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 10:56 am
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:54 am to
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Let’s not further derail this thread. Not my intent.
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 10:58 am to
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You hold the position that Twitter’s new stances are great


You’re mistaking my positions. I think the new policy that was announced today seems like a bad idea. This thread is about a rather innocuous answer the new guy gave about Twitter’s content recommendations, which I think I’ve addressed the best I can.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:00 am to
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You’re mistaking my positions. I think the new policy that was announced today seems like a bad idea. This thread is about a rather innocuous answer the new guy gave about Twitter’s content recommendations, which I think I’ve addressed the best I can.



Do you think one is an aberration?
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:04 am to
I think the subject is this thread is a rather forgetful interview that this guy gave.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:04 am to
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You’re mistaking my positions.
I doubt it.
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I think the new policy that was announced today seems like a bad idea.
I also doubt it.
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This thread is about a rather innocuous answer the new guy gave about Twitter’s content recommendations, which I think I’ve addressed the best I can.
And I disagree that that was what he was stating as noted by the 1st policy change he made after becoming CEO.

But, as I said, we won’t meet eye to eye on this, or really anything else at this point.

This is a quintessential example of why a political separation is needed.

We simply do not have any common ground as Americans anymore.

Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:06 am to
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I also doubt it.


You’re free to read the other thread.

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This is a quintessential example of why a political separation is needed.


Jeez my man take a deep breath.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:09 am to
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I think the subject is this thread is a rather forgetful interview that this guy gave.



The subsequent actions seem to belie that.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:09 am to
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Jeez my man take a deep breath.
Oh, I’m perfectly calm.

Just my overall viewpoint here.

We have zero in common.

Opposing the concept of stifling the free exchange of ideas would seem like a basic stance/reality the vast majority of Americans would agree on, but that apparently isn’t the case.

I mean, research shows that 40% of the US electorate under 40 believes that free speech needs to be rolled back/reduced.

We have hit an impassable stalemate, I believe.

Posted by Coleridge
Houston
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 11:15 am to
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I get it.

Philosophically, I don’t believe that these platforms are in business to create free speech, or provide access to it. They are in business to make money, not promote free speech. They can enter into contracts with anyone they want.

People get pissed off at being banned bc they think they are Twitter/Facebook’s customers. They’re wrong. We aren’t their customers. We’re what they are selling to their customers.


This is pretty much it. The online platforms aren't for "free speech". They're businesses created for the purpose of making money. If you think they've violated the terms a person agreed to when signing up to use their services, then sue them for breach of contract.
This post was edited on 11/30/21 at 11:16 am
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 11/30/21 at 12:15 pm to
I don't see why the people on the right want do badly to move away from the free speech worlds of 4 and 8 chan. It's true free speech on there with racism, pedophiles, and all.
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