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re: WH really playing up this "500 criminals in caravan" hmmmmm

Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:31 pm to
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I don't know if it is or isn't. But what I do think is far-fetched is that these criminals are going to walk up to a U.S. port of entry and ask the U.S. for asylum.


Why?



Isn't that how some of the MS-13 bangers have got in?
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:32 pm to
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Do you have any link to this happening in Mexico?
Not sure if they did or didn't. But some of the May 2018 caravan from Central America were granted asylum in the U.S.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:34 pm to
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Isn't that how some of the MS-13 bangers have got in?


I mean, it's not that far fetched if they're coming from places with little to no central government. Someone could commit a murder, then jump in with caravan and apply for asylum before anyone knows what happened.
Posted by texridder
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:42 pm to
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But what I do think is far-fetched is that these criminals are going to walk up to a U.S. port of entry and ask the U.S. for asylum.
Why?

I assume that they would be afraid that you U.S. would arrest them and/or turn them over to their country's LE.
Posted by texridder
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:43 pm to
dp
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:48 pm to
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I assume that they would be afraid that you U.S. would arrest them and/or turn them over to their country's LE.


What if they've never been caught for the crimes they committed? There are plenty of unsolved crimes in central america
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:58 pm to
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You want so badly to come on here and (try to) show how smart you are (NOT) that you say stupid stuff without having any idea what you are talking about. If you present yourself at the border and ask for asylum it is not an illegal entry. Try again.


Ok. And the process of seeing an asylum officer takes 2 days. During those 2 days the asylum seeker is placed in a detention center. If the asylum officer isn’t convinced they are turned away. All within 2 days. Is that what you think is happening here?
Posted by texridder
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:59 pm to
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What if they've never been caught for the crimes they committed? There are plenty of unsolved crimes in central america
This is true. But I was talking about the 500 or so criminals in the caravan. The U.S.must know something about the crimes they committed or how would they know they are "criminals".
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:00 pm to
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You think the U.S. would grant them asylum if they were. Another example with you having a problem with the concept of relevance. Not a good thing for a lawyer.


Idiot. Defensive asylum is an entire process for those currently subject to removal proceedings claiming asylum. You are such a moron. You have zero clue what you’re talking about.

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Tell you what Mr. Smart A$$. Go look it up yourself, or don't. IDGAF.


Just as I expected.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:06 pm to
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This is true. But I was talking about the 500 or so criminals in the caravan. The U.S.must know something about the crimes they committed or how would they know they are "criminals".

It's entirely possible for the fellow caravaners to know someone is a criminal without the government knowing.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:10 pm to
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All of them are criminals. They're entering the country illegally.



The illegally entered Mexico too so they are international law breakers

Repeat offenders!
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:27 pm to
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Not sure if they did or didn't.


So you're just making random wild claims with no support. Got it. I'll hit the ignore and unsubscribe button now.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:35 pm to
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Defensive asylum is an entire process for those currently subject to removal proceedings claiming asylum. You are such a moron. You have zero clue what you’re talking about.

Not one person in this thread was talking about defensive asylum, dolt. Another of your failed weasel out attempts.
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Just as I expected.
Expect it next time too.
Posted by Nguyener
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:39 pm to
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texridder

Are you willing to house one of these people yourself?

Are you willing to pay the entire costs for these people?

Do you think these people will follow exact asylum procedures?

If not, what in your opinion should be the consequences?

This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 3:40 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:42 pm to
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Not sure if they did or didn't.
So you're just making random wild claims with no support. Got it. I'll hit the ignore and unsubscribe button now.

You're a dumba$$. There were some of the May 2018 caravan that applied for asylum in Mexico just like some in the current caravan applied for asylum in Mexico.
Posted by alphaandomega
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Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:45 pm to
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If you present yourself at the border and ask for asylum it is not an illegal entry. Try again.


Try again. Asylum can only be granted to persons who enter through a port of entry.

Simply crossing the border just makes you illegal. PORT OF ENTRY. And they are not trying to do that anyway.

They dont want (or deserve) asylum. They either want free stuff (welfare) or a job so they can send money back their shitty hometown. frick them. I hope each and every one of them starves to death in the desert on the long walk home.
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:50 pm to
If you don't think terrorist and criminals are mixed in with the good people......

That says way more about you then anyone else.

It says -- YOU ARE A NAIVE MORON.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 3:57 pm to
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Do you think these people will follow exact asylum procedures?
I would think so. At least some of the May 2018 caravan went to court and were granted asylum, so I assume they must have.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:07 pm to
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Not one person in this thread was talking about defensive asylum, dolt. Another of your failed weasel out attempts.

You are so silly. It is you trying to weasel out.

I said:
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Defensive asylum is an entire process for those currently subject to removal


Which was in response to you saying:
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You think the U.S. would grant asylum if they were


Which was a direct response to me saying:
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Zero relevance to your assertion they aren’t breaking criminal laws


So I say laws are being broken...you say if they were the us wouldn’t grant asylum. I point out that defensive asylum is just that....and you get offended I bring up defensive asylum.

This is a perfect example of your inability to keep up.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 11/20/18 at 4:09 pm to
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would think so. At least some of the May 2018 caravan went to court and were granted asylum, so I assume they must have.


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