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re: We’re playing with fire over Ukraine
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:17 am to aTmTexas Dillo
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:17 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Don't worry about it. And if it makes you feel any better, the history of humans is to war with those whom they want to subjugate or to get strategic real estate. Humans always gonna war.
True, Tm. But given the extraordinary power of coming/here High-Tech military weaponry, wherein just a hand full of monied financiers can virtually end the Human race...Humans may want to rethink their biological/psychological leanings. Assuming we can.
Hell, even the extra-terrestrials know better than to get involved in this dog fight.
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:18 am to DyeHardDylan
The American People can't even trust their government, you'd think the Ukrainians would have realized that and refused to give up their nukes. They're screwed now.
But having said that, losing Ukraine to the Ruskies will break up that Democrat / Biden Money Laundering scheme for sure. As far as it applies to the Biden Crime Syndicate they don't need to worry. I'm sure the ChiComs are greasing their palms plenty good.
But having said that, losing Ukraine to the Ruskies will break up that Democrat / Biden Money Laundering scheme for sure. As far as it applies to the Biden Crime Syndicate they don't need to worry. I'm sure the ChiComs are greasing their palms plenty good.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 8:24 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:42 am to DyeHardDylan
Maybe we just let Europe handle this one this time and stay out of their mess. If they aren't prepared to defend from Russia, that's on them.
And... I wouldn't support Russia in a war but I also wouldn't fight for the USA; the same fricking government forcing my company to fire me. frick Russia and frick the USA.
And... I wouldn't support Russia in a war but I also wouldn't fight for the USA; the same fricking government forcing my company to fire me. frick Russia and frick the USA.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:58 am to Landmass
Not that I know what the correct thing to do from a US perspective, but what will Europe do? They chose to trust Russia with their NG. They just turn off the gas, and the war is over.
Hard to trust us with the Democrats wanting to destroy our production and economy though... Europe is screwed while it's Winter.
Hard to trust us with the Democrats wanting to destroy our production and economy though... Europe is screwed while it's Winter.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 8:59 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 11:10 pm to SJB901Tiger
Russia is no threat to America, that's what I'm concerned about. Ukraine is too poor to maintain a nuke arsenal. Abolish NATO.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:06 am to SantaFe
So right... No one will do nothing...
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:10 am to RollTide4Ever
If you can catch tonight's Tucker Carlson, his comments on the Ukraine are well worth a listen. He is pointing out a western threat to Sevastopol and a renewed drive to bring Ukraine into Nato as drivers for Russia's actions now. Both very well could be red lines for Russia which could provide the impetus for military action.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:44 am to DyeHardDylan
You want to grind the stupid wars to a screeching halt?
Make is so that, every time SGLI and death benefits are paid out to a family as a result of a servicemember is killed overseas, that money is taken out of the salary and assets of every member of the executive and legislative branches, including the President.
Make is so that, every time SGLI and death benefits are paid out to a family as a result of a servicemember is killed overseas, that money is taken out of the salary and assets of every member of the executive and legislative branches, including the President.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:45 am to RollTide4Ever
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Russia is no threat to America, that's what I'm concerned about. Ukraine is too poor to maintain a nuke arsenal. Abolish NATO.
Ukraine joining NATO is actually a threat to Russia if you listen to Carlson's bit tonight.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 5:24 am to Zarkinletch416
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Ukrainians would have realized that and refused to give up their nukes.
The Ukrainians didn’t have the codes to arm the warheads. They tried and failed to crack the security, when that didn’t work, they sold the weapons.
We gave them more than 400 million dollars, and they turned the warheads over to Russia to be dismantled.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 5:57 am to DyeHardDylan
If NATO stays the frick out, Russia will stay the frick out. Geopolitical “chicken” is better than war.
Meanwhile some dumbass congressman from MS is on Fox News talking about preemptive nuclear strikes against Russia as a possibility. What a fricking retard.
Meanwhile some dumbass congressman from MS is on Fox News talking about preemptive nuclear strikes against Russia as a possibility. What a fricking retard.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 6:10 am to DyeHardDylan
Australia and the Ukraine should form an alliance and build up their knife and baseball bat arsenals.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 6:54 am to RollTide4Ever
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Russia is no threat to America, that's what I'm concerned about. Ukraine is too poor to maintain a nuke arsenal.
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Abolish NATO.
Where did this come from?
But I see your point about Russia and no threat.
NATO allows Europe to dress up in their military dress uniforms and play army. That's good.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:44 pm to Lima Whiskey
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They tried and failed to crack the security, when that didn’t work, they sold the weapons.
Any code can be cracked. Regardless, they made a big mistake giving up those nukes. Possession of those nukes was their ace in the hole. They're screwed now.
America is for sale.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 12:51 pm to Zarkinletch416
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Any code can be cracked.
The encryption system they used is uncrackable with current technology.
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Possession of those nukes was their ace in the hole.
They wanted money.
We didn’t want a nuclear weapon being lost, sold, or stolen.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:13 pm to DyeHardDylan
If I recall it right, Ukraine's people's origins were originally Scandinavian. The Russians have long history of screwing them over.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:20 pm to Decatur
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The US and everyone else will sit back and do nothing.
This seems to be what most people here want, no?
No, we want no un-necessary conflicts. If we had a real leader such as Trump, a potential conflict would simply not be necessary. Since Biden so so obviously weak, it invites conflict.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:27 pm to SantaFe
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We have seen how this ends before. 20 million+ killed .
Yeahhhh, I don't see it going that way for the Ruskies this go 'round.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:34 pm to markinkaty
Russia desires a buffer on her eastern front ever since june 22, 1941. seems like americans would study history. No way we should be seeking Ukraine join NATO.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:50 pm to DyeHardDylan
There is zero reason for us to have troops there.
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