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re: We’re going to know the future of this country when the SCOTUS rules on student loan debt
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:55 am to Bass Tiger
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:55 am to Bass Tiger
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The SCOTUS potentially playing Robin Hood is indeed unethical.
The Robin Hood story is told backwards.
Everyone thinks Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor, but what he really did was to steal the taxes from the corrupt government and return them to the people.
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 11:00 am to Bass Tiger
I remember the same thing being said on this board about the Arizona election rulings. So every month or so we have one of these “if this happens the country is over” threads.
Truth is the country has been over in that sense for more like 100 years, and these things just make you sound hyperbolic and annoying.
Truth is the country has been over in that sense for more like 100 years, and these things just make you sound hyperbolic and annoying.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 11:17 am to Capo
That was probably through the public service loan forgiveness program. You do 10 years of govt employment and they forgive what you have remaining on your loans. Completely different than just forgiving across the board.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If the SCOTUS decides it’s ethical and legal to take money from responsible Americans, to take money from Americans who never attended a university and give that money to millions of Americans in exchange for Dim votes…..need I say more? You can 100% forget about this nation ever recovering from the woke insanity that’s infested every major American institution.
We have had redistribution programs like Social Security for almost 100 years and still survived.
I don't agree with them, but you're being overly hyperbolic about a one-time redistribution that's minor in the big picture.
And no, I don't support this policy or other ad hoc SLF. If you want to have your loans forgiven, there are plenty of legal programs pursuant to law. They just probably won't allow the urbane lifestyle desired by the students who made bad decisions.
This post was edited on 2/28 at 8:00 am
The point is, when the frick is this handout bullshite going to end!
Posted on 2/28/23 at 12:38 pm to coldbeerfan
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The point is, when the frick is this handout bull shite going to end!
When the under 50 crowd stops voting for Democrats.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:22 pm to Bass Tiger
Will be allowed to go through. Just like ObamaCare.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:25 pm to 93and99
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When the under 50 crowd stops voting for Democrats.
The over 50 crowd are the people who voted for and enacted/further expanded every entitlement program in existence.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 2/28/23 at 1:28 pm to Snipe
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Lending agencies will stop lending to all but A+ credit applicants.
I don't believe they can do this. The law was changed to mandate the loans. That is why we are in this position in the first place...
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:03 pm to el Gaucho
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Dave Ramsey says that you can’t afford college if you can’t pay cash
In fairness, Dave Ramsey says that about pretty much everything... Not that he's wrong.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:21 pm to hogcard1964
Is this a statement or fact, was it shot down or you hoping for that?
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:22 pm to LB84
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I don't agree with the 20k-10k knocked off student loans but it's weird so many people make a big stink about this compared to the money being sent to the Ukraine and the free loans they handed out to businesses during covid.
Big business and foreign countries get a pass but the line in the sand is poor people getting money knocked off a loan, not even money in their pockets.
Every dollar they don't spend here, they'll spend there.
The there will be defunct business or territory and no one will care. It's sad. We have country filled with people programmed to disregard their interest because of muh politics.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:23 pm to Bandit1980
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Is this a statement or fact, was it shot down or you hoping for that?
Absolutely not a statement of fact. The Court has not issued an opinion on the case.
General consensus is that the Biden forgiveness plan will not be upheld, but it is not official yet.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:24 pm to LB84
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I don't agree with the 20k-10k knocked off student loans but it's weird so many people make a big stink about this compared to the money being sent to the Ukraine and the free loans they handed out to businesses during covid.
Its almost like those expenditures are totally separate with totally separate legal justifications, and they have zero bearing on the legality of each other.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:25 pm to td1
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That was probably through the public service loan forgiveness program. You do 10 years of govt employment and they forgive what you have remaining on your loans. Completely different than just forgiving across the board.
All of it is either legal or illegal. There is no in-between.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:26 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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All of it is either legal or illegal. There is no in-between.
Categorically false. In fact, the most blatantly obvious conclusion is that there is a massive legal difference in the situations you described.
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:31 pm to Indefatigable
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Categorically false. In fact, the most blatantly obvious conclusion is that there is a massive legal difference in the situations you described.
I'm sorry, I don't recognize any distinction between the Executive and the Legislative branch anymore. Congress willingly gives up damn near all its power to the Executive so that they can sit blameless in their chairs for decades while you idiots blame POTUS for potato shortages in Idaho. When they scream about Executive overreach, I tune out.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:32 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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I don't recognize any distinction between the Executive and the Legislative branch anymore
Quite frankly what you do or don't recognize couldn't be less relevant. What the federal courts recognize is what matters.
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Congress willingly gives up damn near all its power to the Executive so that they can sit blameless in their chairs for decades
No argument there.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:45 pm to Indefatigable
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Its almost like those expenditures are totally separate with totally separate legal justifications, and they have zero bearing on the legality of each other.
It's almost like you care more about foreign entities and big business than Americans just like the damn democrats.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 2:48 pm to Bass Tiger
Could jurisprudentially end the law of contract in the U.S. China doesn't allow contracts, as an example of where we could be headed.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 3:02 pm to Tall Tiger
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Could jurisprudentially end the law of contract in the U.S.
Huh?
I swear some of you guys have no idea what the issue actually is. The case doesn't involve contract law. The question before the Court is whether the HEROES Act of 2003 (and as amended since then) grants the Executive authority to forgive student loan debt. The decision will have zero bearing whatsoever on contract law, which is a state issue to begin with.
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