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re: Welp, it's done: the liberals won in the SBC election
Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:51 am to DesScorp
Posted on 6/16/21 at 6:51 am to DesScorp
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Too late for that. In 2019, there was an SBC resolution accepting CRT is "an analytical framework outside the Bible" to study the issue of "racial reconciliation".
I don't need to reconcile with anyone but Jesus.
The problem with churches today are younger pastors bringing their woke beliefs to church with them. The last straw for me at my last Baptist church was the pastor saying "black lives matter" in a sermon; I was done. Found a new Baptist church that teaches the Bible and leaves the BS at home.
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:00 am to crap4brain
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Consider an Independent Baptist Church. They are not beholden to anybody except the local Church body. I dont understand the need for a governing body over a group of Churchs.
This is basically how SBC works. The SBC is not a church. The local churches govern themselves, and cooperate through the SBC for missions and seminary. Far too many in the SBC organization think of themselves as the church. They are just a support organization and far less important than the local churches.
There are still lots of strong local churches in the SBC that are biblical and reformed. If SBC goes too far off the rails they will just stop giving to the SBC and find another outlet for giving to missions.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 7:02 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:02 am to DesScorp
When he uses the old liberal line,” I want to build bridges, not walls” you know what he is.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:09 am to beebefootballfan
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Missions are the only thing that keeps the average pastor from just walking away.
Any Southern Baptist church can donate to missions without being part of the association.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:14 am to FooManChoo
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Head to a Reformed Baptist church if you can. If none are around, go to a conservative Presbyterian denomination like the OPC or a conservative PCA church. Folks need to get back to the scriptures.
I belong to a Southern Baptist Church that does peach straight from the Bible and is very conservative and biblically sound.
Who the president is of the SB is of very little consequence except for public perception. This goes for every SBC actually, since all are autonomous.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:16 am to Cajun Tide
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This is going to sound like sacrilege to most of you but all churches are corrupt and do not have your soul in mind when making decisions.
Do you generalize much?
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:19 am to BamaScoop
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The SBC is a terrible organization.
This would imply that every SBC is exactly the same and preaches the same. It’s a useless generalization like saying,” all white people are racists!”
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:24 am to AUX3
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That is ensuring their platforms just teach the Bible.
That ship....has sailed.
Independent churches are the only way to go at this point. The conventions/conferences/ecumenicalish organizations are all being compromised.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:25 am to DesScorp
Conservatives are going to largely overreact to this news. Litton will be a fine candidate who will be able to keep the public perception of the SBC in balance. Stone winning would have ushered more politics and American nationalism into the denomination, which would have been a disaster for the church. Stone's camp was giving out stickers on the convention floor that referred to the opposition as 'Biden Baptists' . 
Churches can still make their own decisions when it comes to what they want to teach. Seminary presidents still control what is taught in their schools.
The more you complain about this election the more credence you give to the governing body that is largely clerical and PR based. Don't give him more power than what is due.
Churches can still make their own decisions when it comes to what they want to teach. Seminary presidents still control what is taught in their schools. The more you complain about this election the more credence you give to the governing body that is largely clerical and PR based. Don't give him more power than what is due.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 7:31 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:26 am to FooManChoo
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Head to a Reformed Baptist church if you can.
Indeed. Check out the Anchored in Truth Network of churches. Loosely affiliated, likeminded, reformed. Started by Grace Life Church of the Shoals, in Muscle Shoals, Alabama.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:27 am to squid_hunt
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Independent churches are the only way to go at this point.
SBC are independent in the respect that they can teach or peach anything they want.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:27 am to Ssubba
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Churches can still make their own decisions when it comes to what they want to teach.
Yep.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:40 am to DesScorp
This whole thread is evidence that far too many of you still rely on the MSM for your information. There are over 40,000 SBC churches in this country, and the overwhelming majority of them aren’t impacted in the least by Ed Litton being president.
The real power of the SBC is in the executive committee (which is under attack by the MSM) and the seminary leaders (who came out against CRT and started this latest brouhaha).
I think yesterday was a good day for the convention. We will see.
The real power of the SBC is in the executive committee (which is under attack by the MSM) and the seminary leaders (who came out against CRT and started this latest brouhaha).
I think yesterday was a good day for the convention. We will see.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:45 am to RAB
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This whole thread is evidence that far too many of you still rely on the MSM for your information
Agree. When CNN is running the headline 'Moderates win the Day..." and the Washington Post with "...defeat for the Hard Right" you know the overreactions and misunderstandings from people who have no clue how the SBC is run are going to pour in. The media is trying to their best to divide the church. Don't listen to their headlines or how they frame the narrative.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:54 am to antibarner
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I know Litton, he's pastor here in Saraland of the biggest church in town. A commie he isn't.
Anyone who is in any way soft on CRT may not be a commie, but he's certainly one of their dupes or useful idiots.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:57 am to DesScorp
I’m going to be the contra here, but I know some gay Christians who are much better people than a majority of Christians. It just isn’t that big of a deal to me, and my opinion only, I don’t think it would be to Jesus either. I’m not trying to interpret scripture for you, but I have always believed we live under grace and what truly matters is how we serve others, not our own failings. I admire Christians who are helping the poor and hungry and serving others the most, not the ones who can get dogmatic over scripture.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:09 am to squid_hunt
Our church is 100% christian conservative in its doctirine. Our pastor will not marry someone that has been divorced, women do not preach, but they can give their testimony, and the pastor has let us know that he will push for us to leave the SBC if they get too liberal. I am expecting him to talk on this in the next several weeks. Truthfully I hope we do in fact leave. Our church is very giving with much of the tithes going to missions and other charities. I don't see the reason to even be in an association like the SBC. Just like government, just another level of bureaucracy to siphon off money from those that it was intended for, and push their thoughts and beliefs on the subjects.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:10 am to Topisawtiger
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Our church is 100% christian conservative in its doctirine. Our pastor will not marry someone that has been divorced, women do not preach, but they can give their testimony, and the pastor has let us know that he will push for us to leave the SBC if they get too liberal. I am expecting him to talk on this in the next several weeks. Truthfully I hope we do in fact leave. Our church is very giving with much of the tithes going to missions and other charities. I don't see the reason to even be in an association like the SBC. Just like government, just another level of bureaucracy to siphon off money from those that it was intended for, and push their thoughts and beliefs on the subjects.
This. Same here
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:16 am to Auburn80
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I know some gay Christians
If they are actively and unrepentantly practicing a gay lifestyle, they are living in sin. That isn't the same as a simple "failing" or even a sin you're working on that you struggle with. Actively flouting and celebrating your sin is itself a sin.
ETA: If they're doing this while witnessing to people, they're also preaching a false gospel.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 8:17 am
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:19 am to imjustafatkid
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If they are actively and unrepentantly practicing a gay lifestyle, they are living in sin. That isn't the same as a simple "failing" or even a sin you're working on that you struggle with. Actively flouting and celebrating your sin is itself a sin.
Yep. They Bible is plain on its teaching that engaging in homosexual sex is a sin. Any person who chooses to live in this continual sin is in an unrepentant state, and thus, not a Christian at all.
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