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re: Welfare birthrate question
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/11/14 at 10:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
that's indirect, fwiw. and i'm no anarchist. i believe in public roads to facilitate trade...but i'm starting to believe in privatization of roads
that way you won't have to pay for roads you don't use. more importantly, poor people won't, either
I'd argue the current framework of how we do roads is probably the least cumbersome possible. I'm not arguing it's perfect, of course. I just think a 100% user fee system would be a lot more cumbersome in a place the size of the US, and with the number of municipal/state boundaries we have.
Plus, I'm okay with paying for roads I just might use (or just use indirectly - as there are plenty that fall in that category). I derive a certain value in knowing I can, even if I never do. And I figure it's mostly a wash in the end.
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:01 am to Y.A. Tittle
that's why i'm not full on supportive of 100% private roads. the policing of the private roads is the biggest issue to me
interstate systems protect national trading, which is a function of government in my eyes. government should protect our freedom, property rights, and ability to trade. that means military, police, and roads could easily fit into the trade aspect
interstate systems protect national trading, which is a function of government in my eyes. government should protect our freedom, property rights, and ability to trade. that means military, police, and roads could easily fit into the trade aspect
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:04 am to SlowFlowPro
I think this thread qualifies for a title change.
Maybe:
Welfare birthrate question about the potential for all privately owned roads/should public roads exist.
Maybe:
Welfare birthrate question about the potential for all privately owned roads/should public roads exist.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:05 am to Truckasaurus
the roads part has only come about towards the very end and isn't the focus of the thread
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:10 am to PokerThere
That would instantly get shot down as racist. I think it was tried by a representative in Kennuh bruh and he was called a racist
Posted on 5/12/14 at 8:53 am to Rex
quote:
Absolutely directly. I pay for the roads and bridges upon which you drive to work and pleasure. I pay for your parks. I pay for your military. I pay for your post office. I pay for your police force. I pay to keep your air and water clean. I pay for a lot of things that support your lifestyle.
This is a silly counterargument IMO. Everybody is receiving these benefits, and if you pay taxes you are paying your share to receive these benefits.
Welfare (food stamps, section 8, etc.) is only benefiting a few. These people are getting EXTRA benefits over others who actually pay MORE than them.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 9:07 am to PokerThere
quote:
Over drinks the other afternoon, a friend and I got to talking about the outrageous birthdate amongst the poor, and how to effectively manage and lower it. The financial burden and the exponential probems this "more kids more money" mindset is crippling the country. What if we gave each family 10K upfront if they got sterilized, thus ending their ridiculous birth rate. Obviously such families have a more short term thought process, so more would rather the 10K, than have 3 more kids. Sure, it might cost a lot up front, but the savings down the road would be tremendous. What say the poli board?
The UN is already on top of this global crisis with Agenda 21. The environmentalists know good and well the third world and innercities are the problem and will likely enforce some form of 0-1 child policy to cut the underdeveloped world's population in half. This is actually a politically correct way to go about it since it avoids sterilization and emphasizes the environment and reduction of carbon emissions.
Advancement in technology will render the third world surplus labor useless soon.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:37 am to PokerThere
This countries population does not need to grow. I don't believe in having birthrate laws like what China had, but we should do what we can to discourage large families. A good start would be a limit of 1 dependent per person on income taxes.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 9:50 pm to PokerThere
quote:
Over drinks the other afternoon, a friend and I got to talking about the outrageous birthdate amongst the poor, and how to effectively manage and lower it. The financial burden and the exponential probems this "more kids more money" mindset is crippling the country.
Over drinks, really?
You sure you or your friend didn't just lift this idea from here:
LINK
?
One of four things must be true:
1) You srlip on USMessageBboard.com
2) Your friend is srlip on USMessageboard.com
3) You took this idea from some blogger or FOX News and are passing it off as your own
4) Your friend took this idea from some blogger or FOX News and are passing it off as your own.
Which is it?
quote:Sounds like the kind of thing Adolph Hitler might discuss over drinks. What is the birthrate amongst the poor, anyway? Do you even fricking know?
Over drinks the other afternoon, a friend and I got to talking about the outrageous birthdate amongst the poor, and how to effectively manage and lower it.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:19 pm to SpidermanTUba
Jesus someone pissed in your kibbles n bits today. As for whatever forum you Linked, that would be a big no. Don't watch Fox News. So no. My friend, I can't say what news site he watches..
You really must live a sad and pathetic life to dig up a dead thread to make blind accusations.
As for the birthrate I think the link earlier pointed out it was much higher than "well to do" or even the middle class.
All in all, you sir, are an astronomically sized douchebag who just slings accusations at people you don't know, and try to sound better than everyone else... When, in fact, you come off as a complete asshat who holds no credibility except as an excuse for a cheap laugh.
Douche.
You really must live a sad and pathetic life to dig up a dead thread to make blind accusations.
As for the birthrate I think the link earlier pointed out it was much higher than "well to do" or even the middle class.
All in all, you sir, are an astronomically sized douchebag who just slings accusations at people you don't know, and try to sound better than everyone else... When, in fact, you come off as a complete asshat who holds no credibility except as an excuse for a cheap laugh.
Douche.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:40 pm to PokerThere
Sorry if this sounds bad but it is true:
Sec 8 housing helps the dependent class breed.
They live in tight quarters.
Sec 8 housing helps the dependent class breed.
They live in tight quarters.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:40 pm to PokerThere
quote:
Jesus someone pissed in your kibbles n bits today. As for whatever forum you Linked, that would be a big no. Don't watch Fox News.
Its not FOX News.
Its a link to another message board, where a poster made almost the exact same post you did (with nearly the same total post counts, too).
LINK
I think you're either srlip on usmessageboard - or you and srlip ripped this idea off from the same source.
If that's not true then your friend is srlip or he's peddling ideas to you that he got somewhere else as if they were his own (not surprising, conservatives think that's OK apparently).
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:41 pm to Scoop
quote:
Sorry if this sounds bad but it is true:
Sec 8 housing helps the dependent class breed.
They live in tight quarters.
You really hate poor people. We got it.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:43 pm to Rex
Isn't the right always talking about how families should take care of their own instead of the government?
If the poor have no children, who the frick is going to wipe their asses when they are too old to do it themselves?
If the poor have no children, who the frick is going to wipe their asses when they are too old to do it themselves?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:45 pm to SpidermanTUba
Nope. I work in sec 8 housing every day. People there are nicer than gated communities.
When I was in high school, getting alone with a girl took some effort.
Sec 8 people live on top of each other and there are no such hindrances.
Just stating facts but thanks for the accusation.
When I was in high school, getting alone with a girl took some effort.
Sec 8 people live on top of each other and there are no such hindrances.
Just stating facts but thanks for the accusation.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:47 pm to Scoop
quote:
Nope. I work in sec 8 housing every day.
And you interview them about their sex lives? Or do you stare in through the windows?
quote:
Sec 8 people live on top of each other and there are no such hindrances.
Privacy?
quote:
Just stating facts but thanks for the accusation.
No problem Scoop ole buddy! You're a TD.com oldtimer, like me, so you know I've always got an accusation for you.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:49 pm to SpidermanTUba
I see. Maybe I should have put them in bullet form.
1) no, i would not be on any other message board. frankly, this is the only message board I've ever even spent more than 5 seconds on.
2) No. my friend isn't the type to post on a message board, and if he were, it would be this one.
3) neither my friend, nor I, watch Fox news (Which you accused)
4) although I can see what you're getting at, and although the circumstances are suspect, I can promise you that I, nor my friend, is that poster.
5) why does it even matter? is it odd that maybe, just MAYBE, two random people on this earth could POSSIBLY look and say... well... maybe if we offered them money, they would get sterilized, not putting them self in further monetary trouble by having more kids they cant afford?
6) you still are a massive douche who makes blind accusations.... and you have YET to provide a single MORSEL of ANYTHING that could be called a contribution to this thread. Instead your only goal was to come in here, and show your arse to everyone. Please, do us all a favor, and for the love of god get your head out of the clouds and try to be open minded.
1) no, i would not be on any other message board. frankly, this is the only message board I've ever even spent more than 5 seconds on.
2) No. my friend isn't the type to post on a message board, and if he were, it would be this one.
3) neither my friend, nor I, watch Fox news (Which you accused)
4) although I can see what you're getting at, and although the circumstances are suspect, I can promise you that I, nor my friend, is that poster.
5) why does it even matter? is it odd that maybe, just MAYBE, two random people on this earth could POSSIBLY look and say... well... maybe if we offered them money, they would get sterilized, not putting them self in further monetary trouble by having more kids they cant afford?
6) you still are a massive douche who makes blind accusations.... and you have YET to provide a single MORSEL of ANYTHING that could be called a contribution to this thread. Instead your only goal was to come in here, and show your arse to everyone. Please, do us all a favor, and for the love of god get your head out of the clouds and try to be open minded.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:58 pm to PokerThere
quote:
5) why does it even matter? is it odd that maybe, just MAYBE, two random people on this earth could POSSIBLY look and say... well... maybe if we offered them money, they would get sterilized, not putting them self in further monetary trouble by having more kids they cant afford?
At just about the same time on different message boards?
Can't be coincidence.
quote:
6) you still are a massive douche who makes blind accusations....
Uhh, no. If I were making a blind accusation, I would have accused you of lack of originality without having seen the post on the other message board.
quote:
and you have YET to provide a single MORSEL of ANYTHING that could be called a contribution to this thread.
You want to sterilize the poor - and you expect me to take the thread seriously? Sorry, I don't take eugenicists seriously.
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:02 pm to SpidermanTUba
Wow look - here's another
LINK
Are you just gonna tell me what website you or your friend ripped this idea from or do I have to search it down myself?
LINK
Are you just gonna tell me what website you or your friend ripped this idea from or do I have to search it down myself?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:10 pm to SpidermanTUba
Well, my friend, sorry to break your bubble... but it is. If it rustles your jimmys SO BAD, why don't you dig more? Find out if the IP addresses match? Because, like I said, there is no relation between the two. But, you're going to believe what you want to believe. Nothing I can do to change that.
sigh.... Reading comprehension isn't your strong spot, is it? It would be an OPTION to them.
Hey, Jan, you're 25 and have 4 kids... youre on welfare. youre not doing to well. Have this surgery to ensure you wont get pregnant again, and you'll get 10K to better you and your families life.
And if you can't take a real problem seriously, then well... I guess I can't make you. But then why did you feel the need to reply, knowing that you weren't going to contribute in any way? Not going to bring any counter arguments?
Did you do it Just to be a douche? To act like a hardass? Maybe to make yourself feel better? I guess I will never know.
quote:
You want to sterilize the poor - and you expect me to take the thread seriously? Sorry, I don't take eugenicists seriously.
sigh.... Reading comprehension isn't your strong spot, is it? It would be an OPTION to them.
Hey, Jan, you're 25 and have 4 kids... youre on welfare. youre not doing to well. Have this surgery to ensure you wont get pregnant again, and you'll get 10K to better you and your families life.
And if you can't take a real problem seriously, then well... I guess I can't make you. But then why did you feel the need to reply, knowing that you weren't going to contribute in any way? Not going to bring any counter arguments?
Did you do it Just to be a douche? To act like a hardass? Maybe to make yourself feel better? I guess I will never know.
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