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re: Weight loss drug prices slashed

Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22028 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:18 pm to
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I am 43, have had 3 kids, have had a hypothyroid since I had my first baby 23 years ago, my hormones are out of whack and I can work out twice a day, starve myself or go to the other end and try to only eat clean/healthy and STILL gain weight. Do you know how annoying it is???? I am not fat by any means but I could stand to lose 25 lbs lol and literally can not no matter what I do. My husband can look at veggies and lose 10 lbs.


I had a family member like this. It was really frustrating for them. I helped them sit down and actually calculate their caloric intake and turned out their "diet" was still consuming about 5k calories a day. Once they finally learned how to get the actual caloric intake down to the proper target, it only took 30minutes of walking every day to start shedding about 2lbs per week.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
8078 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:21 pm to
Maybe more people are finding out that they aren't harmless drugs...





Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22028 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:22 pm to
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enough to move the needle out of the red on health markers, thus lowering health insurance costs for everyone


This is pure assumption. It is way too early to see the net impact on health and insurance costs. We may be trading obesity for skyrocketing cancer rates or other issues since these drugs have no long term risk studies.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13229 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:31 pm to
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Once they finally learned how to get the actual caloric intake down to the proper target, it only took 30minutes of walking every day to start shedding about 2lbs per week.


The walking had almost nothing to do with that. The caloric deficit did.

Walking for 30 minutes isn't long enough to burn fat (it takes at least an hour of walking to START burning fat) and walking itself isn't intense enough to cause a rise in HGH or glucagon or to reduce cortisol, etc.

Walking CAN meaningfully contribute to fat loss, but it takes probably a minimum of a couple of hours a day to do so. Which most people don't have to devote to it.

That's the thing. Exercise CAN contribute a significant component to weight loss, but it's got to be a hefty amount of it. 30 minutes on the treadmill or ellipse machine isn't moving the needle. An hour (minimum) of high intensity exercise might be enough for some people who are in the sweet spot of being healthy and fit enough to do high intensity exercise, but not fit enough for the body to have gotten used to it yet.

But most people are on one side or the other of that dividing line.

Exercise is much more useful for maintaining weight.

Diet is pretty much the only meaningful game in town for losing weight for probably 90%+ of the people attemptng it.
This post was edited on 3/23/26 at 2:32 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13229 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:36 pm to
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This is pure assumption


Naw, it's pure common sense. Well, not pure common sense, as there is plenty of research to back it up.

Obesity is the second biggest driver of health insurance costs (this has been studied a bunch), second only to aging.

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We may be trading obesity for skyrocketing cancer rates or other issues since these drugs have no long term risk studies.


These drugs have passed the same trials that they all have to go through.

You are the one proposing assumptions, because there's no way to know 25 years later what caused someone to develop cancer. That's why long term studies like that are rarely done and they are questioned when they are.

Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11115 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:37 pm to
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Nothing says a healthy society better than slashing costs to cheat to cut weight instead of exercise.


The shot doesn’t burn fat. It makes you not want to eat as much. You can’t take the shot and still eat the same and lose weight.

Yes, if you’re eating fewer calories, you can lose weight. Yes, if you’re eating fewer calories AND burning more (exercising), you can lose more weight.

Why are you figs against the shot? You hate fat people and bitch about them but when a medicine comes out that helps fat people not want to eat as much, yall shite on them for not burning fat by running marathons.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22028 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:40 pm to
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These drugs have passed the same trials that they all have to go through.


That didn't address the point at all. You should probably look into the testing they have gone through and see how much is "long term risk."

TLDR: they dont have any long term risk data.
Posted by RVparklsu
Member since Feb 2026
175 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:41 pm to
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It's not that simple. Some people cannot exercise.


lazy democrats
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41682 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 2:43 pm to
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Why are you figs against the shot?


It’s mainly for lazy people who don’t need it
Posted by ThoUpOrange
Member since Feb 2014
202 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:06 pm to
Over 40% of American adults are obese and 80% are overweight. When the percentage is that high, it's clear it's a societal problem.

I hate that we have to resort to drugs to combat the problem, but the only other real option is to ban unhealthy foods full stop. And that ain't gonna happen. So instead of yelling at fat people, giving them cheap and highly effective weight loss drugs is the best option.

Of course, there's always the worry about side effects down the road. But we already know the side effects and complications of obesity are awful and a huge drain on the system. Handing out GLP-1s to everyone who wants them at affordable prices is the least bad realistic option for tackling the obesity crisis.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19974 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:07 pm to
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9% of people can exercise.


I don’t care if people use it but don’t expect everyone to be all fascinated in your weight loss journey lol.

You don’t earn it.
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1717 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:08 pm to
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Nothing says a healthy society better than slashing costs to cheat to cut weight instead of exercise.

You clearly haven’t seen or don’t understand the benefits related to cardiovascular and neurological events. Not just weight related.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25668 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:09 pm to
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limited her grocery spending and cut out Starbucks.


She could have just did this.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24003 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:12 pm to
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Exercise will make you stronger, which will increase your basal metabolism. It won't increase it enough to lose the weight,

regular people are so retarded when it comes to fitness

continue with your drugs that are going to cause you gastroparesis and give you cancer though
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25765 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:17 pm to
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Nothing says a healthy society better than slashing costs to cheat to cut weight instead of exercise.


This is so 2025 trash talk

Louisiana has an obesity rate of 39%, 3rd worst in USA.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25086 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:26 pm to
All unnecessary drugs are NOT good for you, period!

Quit eating....and the results are the same!
Posted by Trailer Trash
Livingston Parish
Member since Feb 2006
588 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:39 pm to
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they played 2A football in 1997


1986
Posted by 4quartaBamaball
Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Nov 2015
1951 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:42 pm to
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It's not that simple. Some people cannot exercise.


Because they are so fat?
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29700 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:45 pm to
Losing weight for many post-menopausal women is extremely difficult. Add a few outside factors like sleep apnea and it's damn near impossible.

Not every woman gets fat from eating, especially women in their 50s and above.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36282 posts
Posted on 3/23/26 at 3:49 pm to
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It's not that simple. Some people cannot exercise.


It's only simple 99.5% of the time? Scrap it until we reach perfection.
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