re: We should listen when mooslums tell us who they are and their goal!

Holy false equivalence Batman

Mo Jeaux is a Muslim. Best to ignore his warped interpretation of scripture.

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Mo Jeaux is a Muslim. Best to ignore his warped interpretation of scripture.

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Oh frick off. You probably translate as “butler” or something, right. As if Jesus was talking about a hired cleaning woman in the first century.

I love this board.

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You’re retarded, aren’t you?

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Says the guy claiming Jesus was promoting slavery.

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Oh frick off.

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Relax, Mohamed.

Oh. You converted?

Didn’t know that. Congrats.

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Maybe so. He certainly changed Christianity in many ways. It was the Satan comment that I found odd.

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Satan is who Paul claims is God.

Jesus says over and over that Satan is the ruler of this world. Satan even offers him to be King over all the lands etc. Jesus says that he will no longer talk with them because the ruler of this world is coming. John talks about the ruler of this world stands condemened.

Jesus is telling people that the current power structure of the world serves Satan. This is still true today and we all know it. He was killed because he wouldn't bow down to it and threatened it.

Paul does the opposite. In Romans Paul says the authorities of this world are installed by God. Paul claims Satan is the "God of this age" and "the prince of power of the air". Paul teaches submission to the things Jesus fought against.

And then there is the entire blood sacrifice thing. That is purely a Paul thing. Paul is the one who turns it into humanity is saved by the physical blood and death of Jesus on the cross.

Meanwhile to the existing followers who were with Jesus, they did not believe in that. They believed you had to keep the commandments the way Jesus did.

Over a few hundred years the Pauline version won out. Gradually over time. Roman citizens were much more open to the idea of a "free gift" to where they didn't have to do anything while the "other side" was telling them they had to keep the commandments and live as Jesus did.

Jesus exposed things, Paul does the opposite. You don't even really have to keep the commandments anymore according to Paul, despite Jesus saying such things over and over. What better way to serve Satan than to tell people they are saved no matter if they keep the commandments or not? It's a lie.

Thomas Jefferson called Paul the "The First Corrupter". The Jefferson bible is a version that cut EVERY single book by Paul out of the bible. He cut them out with scissors.

Scripture won't tell you these things, but history will.

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Should I also judge every Christian based on this?

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What a ridiculous question.
Would you rather live under mooslum sharia law or under our present laws and morals based on Christian values?

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Mo Jeaux is a Muslim. Best to ignore his warped interpretation of scripture

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Doesn't bother me any. I do not belong to any religion.

I find Muslims are right about many things. For example, Christians are in fact idol worshippers.

And much of it is activated/supported by our own political actions. When you constantly attack people, it brings out the extremism and makes parts that talk about being attacked and how Satan will attack you come true. Because that's basically what it is.

It's their social and other oddities I usually disagree with greatly. Taking away the freedoms in others is not divine. Blaming the women for your own desires is not divine. The culture is nothing I want to be part of.

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Paul does the opposite. In Romans Paul says the authorities of this world are installed by God. Paul claims Satan is the "God of this age" and "the prince of power of the air". Paul teaches submission to the things Jesus fought against

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What a perverted understanding of Pauls message. Your understanding of many of Pauls teachings are severely lacking.
That satan is the ruler of the earth in no way suggest that's what we should follow, Paul teaches the opposite. I pray that your heart and mind will be opened.
Jesus only gave us one commandment:
"To do unto others as you would have done unto yourself "
The golden rule, quite opposite of what satan intends.

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Imitate Christ (and Paul as he imitates Christ)1 Corinthians 11:1
“Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.”
Philippians 2:5–8
“Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus…” (the famous humility/self-emptying passage).
1 Thessalonians 1:6
They “became imitators of us and of the Lord.”
Ephesians 5:1–2
“Be imitators of God… and walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us.”

Put on the new self / put on ChristEphesians 4:20–24
You were taught “to put off your old self… and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.”
Colossians 3:12–17
“Put on… compassion, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience… and above all these put on love.”
Romans 13:14
“Put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh.”

Live worthy of the gospel / love as the fulfillment of the lawPhilippians 1:27
“Let your manner of life be worthy of the gospel of Christ.”
Ephesians 4:1
“Walk in a manner worthy of the calling to which you have been called.”
Romans 13:8–10
“Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.”
Romans 12:1–2
Present your bodies as a living sacrifice; be transformed by the renewal of your mind.

These texts together form Paul’s consistent ethic: because you have been united with Christ and given the Spirit, live out the character of Jesus—love, humility, holiness, and the fruit of the Spirit—rather than the old way of life.

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