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re: We should listen when mooslums tell us who they are and their goal!

Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by Boom33
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:17 pm to
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What a perverted understanding of Pauls message. Your understanding of many of Pauls teachings are severely lacking.
That satan is the ruler of the earth in no way suggest that's what we should follow, Paul teaches the opposite. I pray that your heart and mind will be opened.
Jesus only gave us one commandment:
"To do unto others as you would have done unto yourself "
The golden rule, quite opposite of what satan intends.



Paul also only has one commandment.

Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

OR NIV if you prefer.

If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Who do you prefer when it comes to faith and works? Do you agree with Jesus and James, or do you agree with Paul?

And if the blood of Jesus is required as Paul claims, how does Jesus forgive people before his death? Like in Mark 2:5.

But then Paul turns around and claims you can only be justified in his blood.


This post was edited on 8/30/26 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 4:53 pm to
You should pay attention to anyone who tells u who they are, but really pay attention when they show you.

Fundamentalist Muslims and Zionist have showed us who they are for decades. Yet they are protected by the Jews and Muslims which is contrary to Gods law, as they are and have always really been Baal/Moluch worshippers even if they don’t know it. If they actually read their books critically and were in touch with God they would know this
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:10 pm to
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I had a Christian last week tell me he wanted to replace the 1st amendment of the constitution with a declaration that Christ is King.


USA was shaped undeniably by a Christian worldview. Does Islam have anything in its storied history that can compare to it?

Why is there mass migration of Muslims here, but no such thing of Americans to any Muslim nation?

Why is that?

And yes, Christ is King.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:13 pm to
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Paul was a fraud.

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Boom33


Has anyone introduced you to the rodentlord? You two could be BFF.
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:18 pm to
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Has anyone introduced you to the rodentlord? You two could be BFF.


No.

It's not a unique position though. People who have understanding are able to see it pretty easily.

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:35 pm to
Wow, this evil man uses a quote from Jesus out of context to accuse Christian of stealing, killing and destroying!
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:39 pm to
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Unfortunately, Christianity is the religion of Paul, not Jesus.


If you ignore that Paul spent time with the disciples and they blessed and encouraged his ministry.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:44 pm to
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People who have understanding are able to see it pretty easily.



Who are these people "with understanding?" If it's so easy, you should be able to name them.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65574 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 5:53 pm to
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If you ignore that Paul spent time with the disciples and they blessed and encouraged his ministry.


According to Paul anyway.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:10 pm to
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the bible does
The Bible does not "support" slavery. What verses are you referring to?
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:14 pm to
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If you ignore that Paul spent time with the disciples and they blessed and encouraged his ministry.


Peter and James both thought he was a fraud at a minimum. The book of James is a rebuttal to Paul and his faith vs works claim for example. James mirrors and then flips Paul.

The entire book of Acts was nothing more than PR while trying to make Paul equal to Peter. Trying to make Paul acceptable.

If the death and blood of Jesus is required as Paul claims, how did Jesus claim people were forgiven before his death?

Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2805 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:15 pm to
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Christianity is the religion of Paul
Oh my word here we go

You might want to read Galatians 2:6

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They killed off all the real Christians who followed Jesus and then James when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in 70AD. They fled to the desert and eventually the Pauline version took hold, and they were cast away as heretics and persecuted. It's actually quite fascinating history that the church has tried to hide
It's amazing. None of this is true

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Martin Luther wanted to get rid of the book of James because it was near a direct rebuttal against Paul
Luther also believed consubstantiation so he was definitely far from perfect on theological issues

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the OT supports it
No it does not

The rest of your post is
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:16 pm to
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The Bible does not "support" slavery. What verses are you referring to?


Does it condemn it?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2805 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:16 pm to
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Those who follow Paul, the most common type, is someone who worships Satan in the name of Jesus while celebrating his death.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2805 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:16 pm to
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He certainly changed Christianity in many ways
No he didn't nerd
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
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Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:17 pm to
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The Bible does not "support" slavery. What verses are you referring to?


I gave a pretty long explanation of it later in the thread. In the OT there are many rules and regulations listed. Paul declares it's ok unless they are Christian which is the basis for Slavery in American until a law changed it from religion to race in the 1600s etc.




Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2805 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:20 pm to
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Satan is who Paul claims is God.

Jesus says over and over that Satan is the ruler of this world. Satan even offers him to be King over all the lands etc. Jesus says that he will no longer talk with them because the ruler of this world is coming. John talks about the ruler of this world stands condemened.

Jesus is telling people that the current power structure of the world serves Satan. This is still true today and we all know it. He was killed because he wouldn't bow down to it and threatened it.

Paul does the opposite. In Romans Paul says the authorities of this world are installed by God. Paul claims Satan is the "God of this age" and "the prince of power of the air". Paul teaches submission to the things Jesus fought against.

And then there is the entire blood sacrifice thing. That is purely a Paul thing. Paul is the one who turns it into humanity is saved by the physical blood and death of Jesus on the cross.

Meanwhile to the existing followers who were with Jesus, they did not believe in that. They believed you had to keep the commandments the way Jesus did.

Over a few hundred years the Pauline version won out. Gradually over time. Roman citizens were much more open to the idea of a "free gift" to where they didn't have to do anything while the "other side" was telling them they had to keep the commandments and live as Jesus did.

Jesus exposed things, Paul does the opposite. You don't even really have to keep the commandments anymore according to Paul, despite Jesus saying such things over and over. What better way to serve Satan than to tell people they are saved no matter if they keep the commandments or not? It's a lie.
Could you misunderstand this any worse

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Scripture won't tell you these things, but history will
How convenient. "It exists but you won't find it anywhere."
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
1679 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:20 pm to
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No he didn't nerd


Do you agree with James or Paul when it comes to faith and works?

Which one of them changed it?
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
2805 posts
Posted on 8/30/26 at 6:20 pm to
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Taking away the freedoms in others is not divine
Just say you support murdering babies and we'll all know where you're coming from
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