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We really need a federal investigation into crowdfunding

Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:13 pm
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19699 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:13 pm
All these political hacks immediately getting paid off with half a million dollars, really need to have federal investigators look into who is contributing to these things. For all anybody knows, that was the deal with kavanaugh. Find someone who could have plausibly known him and was willing to spin some vague story in exchange for a go fund me pay off
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24554 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:15 pm to
Welcome to capitalism. If idiots want to pay someone for being a sky screamer then that is their right.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26125 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:16 pm to
I wish I could figure out how to spin a story to get a gofundme jackpot.

it seems too easy. I wouldn't even be greedy I'd just take $100,000
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:18 pm to
Crowd funding isn't the issue.

The issue is the lack of prosecutors with the balls to go after people making false allegations. If that happened, the sources in the crowd funding would be outed and this shite would die down with a quickness.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19699 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:18 pm to
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Welcome to capitalism. If idiots want to pay someone for being a sky screamer then that is their right.
if it's being used as a conduit for political bribery, needs to be investigated
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24554 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:19 pm to
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if it's being used as a conduit for political bribery, needs to be investigated





Ah. I see your point now. Yeah this is a fair position that I agree with.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73493 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:20 pm to
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Welcome to capitalism. If idiots want to pay someone for being a sky screamer then that is their right.


It wouldn't be so bad if these weren't the same idiots wanting to raise taxes, nationalize healthcare, make college "free," and give entitlements to illegals.
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 12:21 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:25 pm to
How is it political bribery? Ford isn’t a politician and cannot make an official act in exchange for money.

I thought donating money to political causes was free speech?
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34080 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:34 pm to
How is crowdfunding taxed? If the recipient isnt specifically designated as a non-profit, it's taxable income right? Arent " gifts " over a certain monetary amount taxable income?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80229 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:39 pm to
I’d imagine so. I’m not a CPA, but I’m sure the IRS will want their cut
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19699 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:51 pm to
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How is it political bribery? Ford isn’t a politician and cannot make an official act in exchange for money
if surrogates of the Democrats are paying off people to lie in supreme court nomination hearings, that's political bribery. Not saying that's what even happened here, but someone sure as frick should be looking at how these sites are being used.

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I thought donating money to political causes was free speech?
there are laws that strictly government those kinds of things, like who can give, how much you can give in a certain time frame, etc, etc. Is go fund me tracking that kind of stuff? There are all sorts of problems surrounding a site where essentially unlimited amounts of money can be transferred from one entity to another. Also, how about money laundering for criminal enterprises? What kind of reporting if any are they required to do?
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 12:54 pm
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2926 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 1:33 pm to
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How is it political bribery? Ford isn’t a politician and cannot make an official act in exchange for money.



I know you like to be antogonistic, so I'm not 100% sure how much you're being intentionally naive or how much you're trolling.

To say Ford is not a politician is technically true, but only superficially relevant. Whether or not something happened to her 30+ years ago, she is acting in a political capacity, akin to a lobbyist.

The same could be equally applied to the Russian lady who was arrested not too long ago for spying. She wasn't technically a politician either, was she? Yet, she was acting in the sphere of politics to influence people... to the point that she was arrested. Would you argue that her not holding an office meant her involvement with other lobbyists or politicans, and exchange of either money or potential sexual favors in her case, was irrelevant?

Moving back to Ford...

It would be a b&w ethical issue if Soros put a newspaper add out to say he'd pay $1M to anyone who would fabricate a claim against Kavanaugh. (Do you disagree?) ... While this is obviously not the case, it is certainly known that Soros funds activists who happen to be univerally opposed to Kavanaugh. Every Kavanaugh accuser and attorney is no further than 2 degrees of separation to the man or his organizations... not a crime, of course, but it is noticeable. So, it is a legitimate concern that someone like Soros might have conversations through his people to encourage Ford and others to come forward and once they do, voila! ... a profitable gofundme emerges, and Soros, directly or indirectly can "donate" to their cause instead of giving them a more ethically questionable-- if not illegal-- payment.

So, in politically charged situations like this, I think transparency would be a good thing. And if Ford, really just got 100,000 donations from individuals that gave $5-$10 each, that's fine. If she got large donations from organizations, it should be considered overtly political. This would not prevent cheating the system in any case, but it isn't unreasonable to make donations transparent for big dollar gofundme accounts.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9520 posts
Posted on 10/4/18 at 1:40 pm to
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