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re: We have to have more appeasing candidates and more acceptance of the Progressive Platform?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:07 am to Nguyener
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:07 am to Nguyener
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more appeasing candidates
Not really
Republicans should have been out front on weed decades ago. As for abortion, its a one hitter unless Republicans go full on Taliban.
Support personal liberties and economic freedom, they'll never lose.
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:11 am to Nguyener
Well, then how do they explain Florida and Texas? Is it that all of the people that do not budge or compromise their morals live in only Florida and Texas? Places like Arizona and Nevada still have the frickery that is the mail in cheat and Georgians are just stupid if they re-elect a Marxist in Warnock.
I believe it's more to do with voters being unintelligent and ill informed then it does with being more or less progressive. Democrats have a substantial amount more of mindless voters that simply pull the lever for the D every time and in actuality would disagree with the candidate they just voted for.
I believe it's more to do with voters being unintelligent and ill informed then it does with being more or less progressive. Democrats have a substantial amount more of mindless voters that simply pull the lever for the D every time and in actuality would disagree with the candidate they just voted for.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:14 am to FooManChoo
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the Dems don’t care about the optics of pushing their agenda. They run on leftist policies and then implement more of those policies when elected.
Gee, no shite, that’s what their voters want
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:16 am to mtb010
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I believe it's more to do with voters being unintelligent and ill informed then it does with being more or less progressive.
Ding ding ding
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:19 am to FooManChoo
quote:Agree. It's the voters. Not that I blame them. Republicans could not do a worse job trying to make their case, or bring issues to voter's home.
It’s not the candidates.
Outside of a few, congressional repbulicans have been... completly silent on most of the issues of the last two years. They expected to cruise to victory, and didn't want to take the chance of offending the "moderates".
That plan has NEVER worked for them. Ever. Not once.
Republicans are going to lose a LOT of close races. How many republicans have given up voting, because they (rightly) think even if republicans get elected... nothing will change? I guarantee that number is higher than "moderates" that swing based on being "non-offensive".
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:23 am to FooManChoo
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They run on leftist policies and then implement more of those policies when elected.
That's because unlike Republicans, they have their ducks in a row, know exactly what they want, and will do whatever it takes to get there. Republicans are worried about too many different things with their senate candidate choices. Democrats run anyone with a pulse out there and rally their base to vote for them.
And people wonder why our side continues to lose.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:24 am to Nguyener
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The conservatives in this country lost because they pushed back against the progressive platform of government funded partial birth abortion as a legal right, child genital mutilation, universal basic income, return to globalist money funneling, and the shortsighted and catastrophic attack on oil and gas.
If conservatives would just accept this platform and not fight it then they could win elections.
Conservatives didn't lose anything though.
Oz losing wasn't really surprising. Zeldin had an uphill battle at best. We expected a runoff in GA.
WTF?
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:24 am to Nguyener
Nah, just mail in ballots, ballot harvesting.
Conservatives made great headway with millennials, they only vote D+2.
All states have a bump in 90% of the counties in margins of conservative voters.
Conservatives made great headway with millennials, they only vote D+2.
All states have a bump in 90% of the counties in margins of conservative voters.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:34 am to Nguyener
This abortion debate is hilarious. The GOP fundraised off this for DECADES. They’re the dog that caught the car.
You simply can’t make a woman who is victim of a crime carry a child of the perpetrator. You can’t force a woman whose life is in danger to plead to a group of hospital administrators or worse - bureaucrats for a life saving abortion.
It’s not as simple as you make it. Nothing is. You want to win more elections? Try nuance.
You simply can’t make a woman who is victim of a crime carry a child of the perpetrator. You can’t force a woman whose life is in danger to plead to a group of hospital administrators or worse - bureaucrats for a life saving abortion.
It’s not as simple as you make it. Nothing is. You want to win more elections? Try nuance.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:50 am to TruthSpeaker225
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You simply can’t make a woman who is victim of a crime carry a child of the perpetrator. You can’t force a woman whose life is in danger to plead to a group of hospital administrators or worse - bureaucrats for a life saving abortion.
This accounts for maybe .0000001% of all abortions. I wish lefties would be honest about why they want abortions. They want the ability to zap that one night stand out of them so they can continue to live reckless, carefree lives void of any and all personal responsibility.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:55 am to Nguyener
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As I said before we are watching Good vs Evil play out in real time on a massive scale.
Again, they see the socially conservative encroachment on their rights EXACTLY the same way.
And there are a lot more of them than there are of you.
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and we’re worshiping them instead of fighting them.
You can "fight them" but you will lose, unless you change our system of government entirely to an authoritarian form suiting your policy preferences.
Again, this is the exact same "evil" thing they're running on (muh democracy).
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It’s not the first time in history and it never ever ends well for those who choose evil. You may think it does.
I am not offering my own individual opinion about policy in this thread.
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I’m angry because I’m concerned for my fellow people, you included. I love them and it hurts watching so many lost people run from the Truth. Especially the lost youth turning to evil.
I am not offering my own individual opinion about policy in this thread.
One thing the Trump crowd is really bad at (and it amplifies with the abortion subsection) is confusing policy and personal preference.
I am discussing policy, electability, etc. I am not discussing the merit's of abortion itself.
That ship has sailed and you can either choose to not participate (ensuring Leftism intensifying) or try to create a cultural authoritarian paradise to rule over.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:57 am to TruthSpeaker225
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You simply can’t make a woman who is victim of a crime carry a child of the perpetrator. You can’t force a woman whose life is in danger to plead to a group of hospital administrators or worse - bureaucrats for a life saving abortion.
It’s not as simple as you make it. Nothing is. You want to win more elections? Try nuance.
There are posters on here who would rather have Communism than be seen publicly supporting rape or health exceptions.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 10:04 am to TruthSpeaker225
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You can’t force a woman whose life is in danger to plead to a group of hospital administrators or worse - bureaucrats for a life saving abortion.
I think this is a HUGE part of it. Most people say their should be exceptions for the life of the mother, rape, incest, etc. But who makes those decisions? What does that woman (child in some cases) have to go through in order to get to a place that shouldn't involved anyone except she and her doctor? And don't say that's not happening. If it's not happening yet, it will. A hospital or doc will be scared of breaking that law and need "permission" to do the abortion. It's not something that woman should have to deal with.
This was THE losing issue in a lot of cases. I know so many woman that would never vote republican now if they live in a "pro choice" state. Additionally, I think most of them don't think any man (politicians) should have any say in what they do. This is their fear.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 10:05 am to LaLadyinTx
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I think this is a HUGE part of it. Most people say their should be exceptions for the life of the mother, rape, incest, etc. But who makes those decisions? What does that woman (child in some cases) have to go through in order to get to a place that shouldn't involved anyone except she and her doctor? And don't say that's not happening. If it's not happening yet, it will. A hospital or doc will be scared of breaking that law and need "permission" to do the abortion. It's not something that woman should have to deal with.
This isn't why women are stumping so hard for abortions.
Posted on 11/10/22 at 10:13 am to VADawg
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This isn't why women are stumping so hard for abortions.
Then why is it so hard for many Republican candidates to not support these exceptions without any hesitation?
If they had just done this and a weekly limit as a party policy, this wouldn't be a big issue. But there's a good chunk of zealots in the party who DEMAND full outlawing of abortion, so all Republicans get this label vicariously during elections.
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