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re: We have a normalization of mental illness problem, not a gun problem!

Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:24 am to
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
South of heaven, west of hell
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:24 am to
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This doesnt sound right at all, can you provide the data you're using to come up with this? I would guess we're spending more on social services and mental health than ever before, the money just isn't being spent efficiently at all and is actually making the problems worse.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9060 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:38 am to
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We don’t need social services to counsel the mentally ill. We need two parent homes, spiritual guidance and common sense.


As someone raised in a christian, loving two parent home with a sibling with severe mental illness, I can tell you that it take more than what you are suggesting to help with folks that are severely mentally ill....as is the case with many of these shooters. At the time insurance didnt cover mental health and my parents went into a terrible amount of debt to keep her alive and some what functional. Folks nowadays even with insurance covering mental health face a difficult road with long term care needed for severe cases. Folks without insurance are basically shite out of luck as state services for mental health are terribly under funded.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9060 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:44 am to
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We bullied the medical establishment into denying mental illness in trans children. We have bullied doctors into affirming gender dysphoria, when no other dysphoric conditions are ever affirmed. We tell kids that it’s ok to seek transitional treatments without parental knowledge or consent. We tell confused children that transitioning, including permanent surgical mutilation, will fix their problems, and you think lack of funding is the issue?


The way in which the medical establishment has decided to "treat" transgender folks doesnt mean that lack of funding for public mental health services isnt an issue. Two things can be screwed up at the same time.
Posted by LSU7096
Member since May 2004
2944 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:45 am to
We need more mental institutions and show the mentally ill some compassion and give them treatment. Why wait until they create victims and hurt or kill people. Get them the help they need!!!!
This post was edited on 8/29/25 at 8:34 pm
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:49 am to
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Need to go back to bulling these freaks in school
That causes shootings.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16350 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:56 am to
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But somehow, no one has connected the dots.


Why do you keep referencing mental health services in this??

Transgenderism is a perfectly normal thing according to the left. In fact. It’s to be celebrated. Let’s give them the entire month of June to revel in their normalcy! Also.. it is perfectly normal to hate Israel.. to hate Trump… to hate religion.. to hate fascists who have apparently taken over the fedgov.. to be completely afraid that democracy is about to end.. to be afraid of death by climate.. to be afraid of people with European descent hunting you…

Everything was normal. Just reference any democrat speech.

Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9060 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:58 am to
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Need to go back to bulling these freaks in school


Do you honestly think that will help children suffering from severe mentally illness? Or did that just feel good to type?
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:05 am to
I do not know who is worse, the OP or the people giving him upvotes.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46246 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:47 pm to
Perhaps, but I’d argue that all the funding in the world makes things worse as long as the treatment is affirming delusion in mentally ill children.

If tomorrow we wake up, and the medical establishment suddenly agrees that we must now affirm body dysmorphia in anorexic teenage girls, and the consensus treatment protocol is to pump them full of ozempic, or perform lap bands and liposuction…. All the money in the world under that treatment protocol only makes the situation worse.
Posted by L5ut1g3r
Member since Mar 2019
1472 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:56 pm to
Yep it’s a horrible thing to speak the truth, keep your liberal head in the sand and cheer on the Democrats who are intent on destroying every value this country holds sacred.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59287 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:02 pm to
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Transgenderism is a perfectly normal thing according to the left. I


This type of posting is so lame. Pick a lane. Do you agree and support "the left?" Are you promoting ideas from "the left?"

If you aren't supporting that and I'm not advocating for that -why even mention it? No one is defending trans ideology or gender-affirming care so what are you trying to prove?

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Everything was normal. Just reference any democrat speech.



Why? Why should we disregard our own thoughts and just defer to "any democrat speech" for guidance on anything?
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
14841 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:02 pm to
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Nebraska senator


That is Machaela Cavanaugh. She groomed her kids into being trannies.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7116 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Yep it’s a horrible thing to speak the truth, keep your liberal head in the sand and cheer on the Democrats who are intent on destroying every value this country holds sacred.


This country holds bullying sacred?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9060 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:35 pm to
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Perhaps, but I’d argue that all the funding in the world makes things worse as long as the treatment is affirming delusion in mentally ill children.


Fair enough but more broadly speaking I hear folks talking about bringing back asylums on this board. I dont think they mean essentially prisons for mentally ill folks like we had prior to the 1980's (or maybe they do) but long term public mental health facilities for those that cannot afford it that arent absolute shite holes. I think Reagan threw the baby out with the bath water when he cut off federal funding for asylums. They needed serious reforms...not closures. With the success of antipsychotics and insurance covering mental illness the need lessened some what but there is still an obvious need for them.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Member since Jun 2011
2274 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:41 pm to
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trying to normalize their behavior.


There's a title for that: "defining deviancy down"
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10713 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:41 pm to
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school shootings continue to increase. But somehow, no one has connected the dots.


Maybe because it's not really true.

School Shootings Have Not Increased

Some people here are convinced that the FBI statistics must be doctored because they can't believe there is less crime now than there was in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

Well, that misperception apparently goes for school shootings as well.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
9060 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:42 pm to
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Does it have to be government provided? I’d wager most of these nuts had jobs with or family with health insurance. Family can help even without insurance. How about a counselor at church or some other non-profit.

It always has to be the government to save us though doesn’t it.

People can get people help. There are plenty of avenues for that


Severely mentally ill people...the kind that would murder an entire classroom full of kids need a lot more help than what church counselor or even most professional psychologist can handle. They need long term care most families, even with insurance, will find difficult to afford.
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
17616 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 1:43 pm to
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That is Machaela Cavanaugh. She groomed her kids into being trannies.


Sick mfers
Posted by L5ut1g3r
Member since Mar 2019
1472 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:19 pm to
Kids grow up today and never face adversity. Bullying isn’t fun but it teaches you to stand up for yourself and not take crap from people. There will always be bullies in this world and the more you are equipped to deal with them the better off you’ll be!
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
18111 posts
Posted on 8/28/25 at 5:20 pm to
Get the fricking straitjacket.
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