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Way too early Trump v's Kamala Harris Electoral Map (2020)

Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:45 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:45 am
/ducks

This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 11:51 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted by Mr.Perfect
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:47 am to
its never too early.
Posted by MrLarson
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:47 am to
Trump gets 108 of those 157 w/o much work.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:48 am to
In all seriousness, she is a huge problem on paper. I wasn't as impressed with her during those hearings as many libs seem to have been, but then again I wasn't impressed with Obama until midway through the 2008 Dem nomination either.

If you look at how much Ted Cruz improved during the 2016 nomination cycle, it's scary to think how much an attractive candidate who has above average people skills can improve during an 18-month campaign (I won't even get into the breathless media coverage she'd have at her back).

Trump needs great numbers (employment, markets, immigration) to buck him up and he's going to have to lean heavily on his white working class coalition again, because minority and youth turnout will be the Dems' #1 focus after 2016.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by UHTiger
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:49 am to
lol she's not gonna be dem nominee. And trump may be impeached before then (sarcasm Brit boy - as American as apple pie but you wouldn't know that).
Posted by texag7
College Station
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:49 am to
If Kamela Harris wins Texas will secede
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:49 am to
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I wasn't as impressed with her during those hearings as many libs seem to have been

Of course not, she was just convenient to the narrative and cringe "YASSS SLAY QUEEN!!" memes.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:49 am to
who?
Posted by BamaFan365
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:51 am to
Pretty much looks like any other pre-election map
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:51 am to
If Harris really ends up being the nominee, you can tick Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin into the R block and Colorado and New Mexico into the D block without too much thinking.

The election would then be won or lost in Florida, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina.

Then again, I am convinced Trump isn't going to run in 2020 and doesn't like actually being president (and I don't think Harris will be the nominee for the D's, either).
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:53 am to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:54 am to
She won't even be the nominee.

Even her own primary opponents will label her a California liberal.

You know what America hates more than California liberals?

Serial killers, pedophiles and terrorists. That's about it.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:54 am to
I think that Colorado and New Mexico are more pragmatic than Nevada and could be swayed to go Trump if the economy is booming and immigration has been handled well in documentable ways, but agree that they'd be very heavy lifts. Perhaps heavier than even a Virginia.

Nevada is becoming California with the multitude of angry young Latino service workers who are incredibly easy to turn out given the geography of Nevada. Nevada will never be red again unless Kobach finds a ton of illegal voters that he can disqualify.

NH and MN are the "next" Trump states to turn, followed by Maine, Colorado and New Mexico.

Too much depends on the eventual Dem nominee to speculate on which are the first Trump states to go red. Could be PA but it could also be Florida depending on the candidate.
This post was edited on 7/25/17 at 11:56 am
Posted by klrstix
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Then again, I am convinced Trump isn't going to run in 2020 and doesn't like actually being president ...



I agree with you on this point...
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:57 am to
quote:

She won't even be the nominee.

Even her own primary opponents will label her a California liberal.


I don't know - we said this about Obama.

The Dems followed up stodgy white candidates (Gore, Kerry) with a dynamic and youthful wild card (Obama).

I'm thinking they'll follow up stodgy unlikeable Hillary with another Obama-like candidate. Harris fits that mold so much better than any other.
Posted by Knight of Old
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 11:57 am to
KH would get crushed no matter who the GOP rolled out as its candidate...
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

I don't know - we said this about Obama.


Obama, at least initially, was able to present himself as someone with a good bit of crossover appeal. I don't see Harris having that in any way, shape, or form.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:02 pm to
Someone better come up with a Maxine Waters/Donald Trump EC map.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 7/25/17 at 12:02 pm to
Trump needs to back off weed, end the federal witch hunt for it...
It would lock up Colorado over a dumb issue
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