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re: Watergate 2.0
Posted on 2/3/18 at 10:28 am to Mud_Till_May
Posted on 2/3/18 at 10:28 am to Mud_Till_May
watergate was on the level of crime as the wife changing the channel on the TV when compared to this BS 
this is looking to be a clear case of obstruction of justice, sedition, and possible treason
this is looking to be a clear case of obstruction of justice, sedition, and possible treason
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 10:30 am to LanierSpots
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Memogate?
Today’s MSM would never do such a thing, coin a term such as that, when it’s something they’re trying to dismiss and de-emphasize.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 10:30 am to 88Wildcat
The goal of Watergate was to wiretap phone conversations between DNC officials and prostitutes in order to embarrass the Dem campaign. And Nixon knew nothing about the plan.
The goal of Memogate was to get legal permission to wiretap Trump to embarrass the campaign and provide an avenue for impeaching him if elected. We don't know yet what Obama knew.
This is much worse than Watergate.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:06 am to Zach
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We don't know yet what Obama knew.
It is funny how Obama never knows about anything.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:11 am to Mud_Till_May
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The term Watergate, by metonymy, has come to encompass an array of clandestine and often illegal activities undertaken by members of the Nixon administration. Those activities included such "dirty tricks" as bugging the offices of political opponents and people of whom Nixon or his officials were suspicious. Nixon and his close aides also ordered investigations of activist groups and political figures, using the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).
Sounds eerily like something else that just happened
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:24 am to Mud_Till_May
I mean, I guess it ultimately could be depending on what else comes out.
At this point all we have is a failure to disclose information about the origin and compilation of the dossier that led to the FISA being granted. Now that's a big deal don't get me wrong, but whether or not this is Watergate level is if the information in the dossier itself was fabricated for political gain. If all this was was a politically motivated failure of transparency then some people will lose their jobs and that's the end of it.
However, if it turns out the evidence itself was knowingly fabricated then we're talking about a whole different level of corruption.
At this point all we have is a failure to disclose information about the origin and compilation of the dossier that led to the FISA being granted. Now that's a big deal don't get me wrong, but whether or not this is Watergate level is if the information in the dossier itself was fabricated for political gain. If all this was was a politically motivated failure of transparency then some people will lose their jobs and that's the end of it.
However, if it turns out the evidence itself was knowingly fabricated then we're talking about a whole different level of corruption.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:27 am to AmericaOverParties
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Alright let’s slow down a bit. This isn’t anything close to Watergate. I believe the draining of the swamp may have affected your critical thinking skills. Seriously this is like a 2 or 3 to watergate being a 10.
Yeah, you're going to have to explain why you believe that.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:30 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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This is way bigger and way worse than Watergate.
As of now, the proven transgressions from Watergate were worse. The POTUS actively covering up felonies which involved political sabotage is a bigger deal than the FBI leaving out a conflict of interest when presenting evidence to a court.
Now if it turns out the information compiled in the dossier, funded by the DNC and the Clinton campaign, was knowingly fabricated then yes I'd agree this is bigger than Watergate.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:31 am to Roger Klarvin
Yup
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:32 am to fouldeliverer
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Watergate brought down a sitting President.
How the duck is this comparable? It's not.
It's comparable because Obama was a sitting President when he committed these crimes against TRUMP and the American People.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:34 am to Roger Klarvin
The level of intellectual bankruptcy we're seeing from the Liberal around here is breathtaking.
Mueller investigation finds no evidence Trump conspired with Russia: IMPEACH TRUMP
House provides evidence that the Dems conspired with a foreign agent to fabricate evidence in order to spy on Trump: Hey, let's not jump to conclusions here...
Mueller investigation finds no evidence Trump conspired with Russia: IMPEACH TRUMP
House provides evidence that the Dems conspired with a foreign agent to fabricate evidence in order to spy on Trump: Hey, let's not jump to conclusions here...
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:35 am to keakar
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watergate was on the level of crime as the wife changing the channel on the TV when compared to this BS
I think the passing of time has skewed your view on the matter.
Watergate involved the POTUS actively lying to members of his cabinet, multiple federal agencies and courts and the American public in order to cover up multiple felonies performed on his behalf. Nixon attempted to do exactly what all dictators must do before they can become dictators, it just didn't work. But he absolutely tried to subvert the legal system and our entire system of government to gains political edge and crush the opposition.
What he did was a direct threat to the very foundations of our democracy.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:39 am to 88Wildcat
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To get Watergate level you have to give the public indisputable proof that this goes up to Obama, Lynch, Jarrett, Holder, etc. level.
considering how painfully obvious a micromanager obama was i do not think it is a great leap of faith to know he had his fingers in this. this is only the beginning.
if only the msm was more interested in being journalists and reporters instead of being the mouth piece for the liberal elites of the progressive movement.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:40 am to Armchair_QB
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The level of intellectual bankruptcy we're seeing from the Liberal around here is breathtaking.
Good thing I'm not a liberal then. I voted for Trump, albeit begrudgingly so.
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House provides evidence that the Dems conspired with a foreign agent to fabricate evidence in order to spy on Trump
Except that's not really what has happened (at least not yet). The house provided evidence that the FBI failed to disclose democratic involvement in the creation of the dossier that was presented in court. The information within that dossier isn't automatically false because the DNC helped fund it.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:00 pm to Armchair_QB
You had the potus lying over and over and directly involved in ordering the tapping of the dnc. Where did the memo state BHO’s name lol?
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:04 pm to Kingpenm3
Direct orders from Nixon to tap. U realize half the country does in fact think this is a nothingburger with the dems memo to prove most of this is shambles?
I’m a conservative republican but u alt right nut jobs are acting like the sky has fallen and the world will implode. This isn’t what u guys are making it lol.
I’m a conservative republican but u alt right nut jobs are acting like the sky has fallen and the world will implode. This isn’t what u guys are making it lol.
Posted on 2/3/18 at 2:09 pm to shoelessjoe
You guys are hallucinating. This is 1% of Watergate. Quit listening to The cyber criminal Assange dick licker, Hannity. This is a minor issue about a minor player who was on radar for years- Page.
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