re: WATCH THREAD | DeSantis vs Newsom | The Great Red vs. Blue State Debate | Fox News

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you keep acting like the race is over, it's not. The race starts with Iowa.



I’m locked in for Trump, but I still was rooting for Ron to mop the floor with Newsome, although I didn’t expect it to happen.

He did. Ron looked great (although with a little help from Hannity). He outperformed my expectations.

He should be the front runner for 2028.


There are a lot of disingenuous people here. Both ways. No way anyone can watch that and not come away thinking Ron won.

I can still dream of a Trump / Ron ticket. I maintain this is how Ron could coast to the Presidency in 2028 and 32.

I wonder if his thoughts about VP have changed once he realized there is no slowing down Trump. He’s better off on the MAGA ticket as VP. That’s how he gets himself to the White House for 28….by inheriting MAGA.

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People talk about polls a lot but they don't know what they are talking about for the most part. National polls in a primary are irrelevant and can be cooked up anyway. There is no way to prove or disprove them so there is no accountability.

Every state poll EXCEPT Iowa also is basically irrelevant for now because there will be 2 weeks after Iowa before NH, that's an eternity in politics and DeSantis has the money to compete with Trump if it goes long.

So the most important polling is Iowa which is the hardest place to poll because it is a Caucus state and enthusiasm is key. You have to not only get people to vote but to commit to spending a couple of hours in a room debating to do so.

That said the most reliable poll historically in Iowa is the Des Moines Register poll. The last one showed Trump up by over 20 which is good for him. The problem is that poll was released on October 30, well over a month ago and before the Reynolds or Vander Plaats endorsements.

So we really don't know what is going on. If Trump truly does win Iowa big it's over. If he loses though that means the inevitability argument is shattered and all the polling comes into question. It's a real race at that point.

We will know in about 45 days.

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He should be the front runner for 2028.

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If RDS is the Republican nominee in 2028, it will be an easy win for President Harris (or President Newsom, since he destroyed Ron so easily).

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Virtually all of DeSantis supporters

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Virtually all of Trump supporters will vote for the (R) nominee, regardless.

The bots?

Just looked, not one post from me in that thread

I never really had a problem with DeSantis until he announced. Even then I didn’t just thought it was dumb because he underestimated the base Trump has. I’ve even said he should attack Trump more.

That’s why I know that poster was lying this morning saying I called him a cuck december 2022. Weird enough he never posted the link. Because it never happened then.

I think in a voting booth Dems will lose a lot to go back to trumps economy vs Biden’s. Blacks also have woke up and know they’ve been played. That’s huge when he only lost by about 40k over a few states.