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re: Wa State AG Warns Journalists Investigating Somali Daycares is Potential Hate Crime Charge

Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:28 am to
Investigate fraud by their reasonings is hate crime and the people fraudulently raping the system are protected in actions by media and politicians. There is something seriously wrong with what has been thrown on us in last 20 years
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:29 am to

Nowhere did the AG warn against investigating “fraudulent activity”
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:33 am to
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You're going to be dealing with a wide range of people, many who likely have no idea how to actually run or even attempt to run a daycare.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467531 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:33 am to
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I guess you think Nick was behind the Minneapolis break in.

Uh, no. Don't be retarded.

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Every video I've seen shows people knocking at the door and if somebody answers, they stand there and talk to them.

And mostly they get told to leave, creating no actual story/legitimate reporting.

Like the Seattle story in this thread

The issue is if that is "the press" for 1A purposes. It's not isolated to just these people looking for viral moments for "Somali fraud" either. It's a larger issue with social media, generally.
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
950 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:34 am to
First Amendment joins the chat
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16431 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:34 am to
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The issue is that a lot of people without training are trying to create a viral moment to get famous on social media


Without ""training"".

Again.. what ""training"" is required, legally, for a person to be considered a journalist?

Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9372 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:40 am to
They really don’t want a conversation after all
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467531 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:40 am to
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Again.. what ""training"" is required, legally, for a person to be considered a journalist?


Well that's an emerging issue in the TikTok/Twitter era.

Technological and societal differences didn't permit this in the past and what a journalist/member of the press was, was much easier to define. Now when anyone can show up places with a camera and live stream it, the distinction is going to become much more difficult to determine.

Like that video from Seattle. I give it credit for at least showing some work, but there is no research/reporting on anything of substance. Just an inserted graphic of a google listing and a video of him getting doors slammed in his face. Is that the press or a person trying to go viral on social media? We're going to have to determine that and figure out a way to make that determination on a mass scale moving forward.

I will guarantee you the test will take into account some form of quality of output as a factor. Part of what training does it teach you how to produce better output.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20710 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:41 am to
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Name a time when the Democrat party is on the right side of the issue? And that goes all the way back to slavery and civil rights.


I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, what we are witnessing today has its roots in the founding of this country. The three fifths compromise allowed for 3/5th of the total slave population in the south to be counted in the census when determining representation in Congress. Southern democrats exploited it and gained inflated power and influence within Congress. All of these foreign communities that Dems fight tooth and nail to protect serve the same purpose. They give Dems dozens of house seats because their numbers are counted in the census. Just like slaves, you don’t need them to vote, you just need them within your state borders.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467531 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:41 am to
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They really don’t want a conversation after all

Naw we can have conversations.

We just need actual data/evidence to have a productive one.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16431 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:42 am to
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And mostly they get told to leave, creating no actual story/legitimate reporting.


So no local news person for a three letter network has never included footage of them knocking on the door of a home or business, asking a question while shoving a microphone in the face of someone that cracks the door, and getting the door closed on them?

That never happens and gets included on Dateline NBC??

That's never happens and gets included on 60 Minutes?

That never happens? You sure bout that?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
40759 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:42 am to
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We're going to have to determine that and figure out a way to make that determination on a mass scale moving forward.


Not really. Nobody cares what is defined or not defined.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
18151 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:44 am to
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Name a time when the Democrat party is on the right side of the issue? And that goes all the way back to slavery and civil rights.


The Democrat strategy is to simply appeal to the poor and weak. Even with the MSM sucking Democrat nuts, their strategy has failed due to the inability to provide what was promised.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467531 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:44 am to
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Not really.

Yes really. It's a new area of legal analysis for the 1A.

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Nobody cares what is defined or not defined.

I'm sure people who are sued and prosecuted will care how its defined
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467531 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:45 am to
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So no local news person for a three letter network has never included footage of them knocking on the door of a home or business, asking a question while shoving a microphone in the face of someone that cracks the door, and getting the door closed on them?


Show me one of these stories that is ONLY this.

One without background, research, and explaining all of that to frame the story.

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That never happens and gets included on Dateline NBC??

That's never happens and gets included on 60 Minutes?

I don't think you can find an applicable example to work. See above.
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
2502 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:46 am to
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The security and privacy of the children alone should make this obvious.


Aren't they showing up to places that have no children at all inside? That seems to be the entire issue currently.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467531 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:48 am to
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Aren't they showing up to places that have no children at all inside?


We don't know this and these new viral videos don't show this.

But that's the take they want the public to take away, yes.

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That seems to be the entire issue currently.

And it's an issue that deserves real reporting and not what we're getting. That's the discussing being had ITT.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16431 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:48 am to
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Well that's an emerging issue in the TikTok/Twitter era. Technological and societal differences didn't permit this in the past and what a journalist/member of the press was, was much easier to define. Now when anyone can show up places with a camera and live stream it, the distinction is going to become much more difficult to determine.


Really? What does the Supreme Court lean toward in defining it? Function or definition? Since you are such a stickler for the legal description of things.

How was journalism handled when the first amendment was authored? Who did it? Was it supposed to be liked by the government? Was it done by a corporate conglomeration with pass after pass after themselves lying to the people?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85454 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:50 am to
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bust into a home daycare
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85454 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 9:50 am to
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a lot of people without training are trying to create a viral moment

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