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re: Wa State AG Warns Journalists Investigating Somali Daycares is Potential Hate Crime Charge

Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:11 pm to
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So, Shirley isn't relevant in a thread about journalists in other states specifically copy-catting his work?


Not when they're doing it so poorly they're creating a discussion if the 1A should protect them. That's the main theme of the discussion

The point is that they're not doing work close to what Shirley did (and that wasn't even anything close to sourced, traditional journalism itself)
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:34 pm to
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Naw it's in response to the various "reporting" out of Seattle by people trying to mimic Shirley and go viral like he did.
So you believe that these people are attempting to mimic Shirley. Got it.
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The point is that they're not doing work close to what Shirley did
And though you do agree they are attempting to mimic Shirley, any mention of Shirley is irrelevant in a thread about a state AG's response to people who are attempting to mimic Shirley. Again, we'll agree to disagree.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:31 pm to
As a non-Somalian, there is no way I would leave my child with one. Heck, I would just start my own childcare and give my child 55 names.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:34 pm to
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So you believe that these people are attempting to mimic Shirley. Got it.


Isn't it clear they are?

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And though you do agree they are attempting to mimic Shirley, any mention of Shirley is irrelevant in a thread about a state AG's response to people who are attempting to mimic Shirley.

Nobody said "any mention" was irrelevant. Referencing their mimicking and inferior output is directly relevant to the 1A issue, as has been discussed.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 6:19 pm to
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Not when they're doing it so poorly they're creating a discussion if the 1A should protect them. That's the main theme of the discussion discussion


Where does the 1st Amendment say poor speech is illegal and not allowed?
Posted by FluffyBunnyFeet
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:09 pm to
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Isn't it clear they are?
As crystal, yes. Which means Shirley is relevant to the thread.

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Nobody said "any mention" was irrelevant.
You said inserting Shirley into this thread was "irrational" and "wasn't relevant." Now, if you were talking about relevance to some tangent you and others had gone off on, you will have to forgive my misinterpretation because you weren't clear on. It seemed as if you had declared yourself arbiter of what is and isn't relevant in this thread, and Shirley surely is.
Posted by Csmims
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:09 pm to
And people wonder why the national and state debts are so high Fraud and hidden fraud everywhere.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:10 pm to
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Where does the 1st Amendment say poor speech is illegal and not allowed?


Define "poor speech"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:11 pm to
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You said inserting Shirley into this thread was "irrational" and "wasn't relevant."

As a subject, not a reference. That should be clear.

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Now, if you were talking about relevance to some tangent you and others had gone off on,

Making Shirley a subject is just this. I was trying to avoid that tangent.

Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:11 pm to


You mentioned it and I responded to your mention. It appears I should not have done so.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:12 pm to
Exactly!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:14 pm to
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You mentioned it

No. My use of "poor" referenced their attempt to be "press" or "journalists" that would get 1A protection. It's not a speech issue.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:19 pm to
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No. My use of "poor" referenced their attempt to be "press" or "journalists" that would get 1A protection. It's not a speech issue. ion. It's not a speech issue.


If so, who in your world would is consider a great "press" member or "journalist"? I find it very hard to find one that is honest. Very hard!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:20 pm to
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If so, who in your world would is consider a great "press" member or "journalist"?


THAT is the central discussion of this thread
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:17 pm to
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THAT is the central discussion of this thread




I had no idea that the answer you can not or will not provide is the central discussion of this thread.
Posted by somethingdifferent
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:52 pm to
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Naw it's in response to the various "reporting" out of Seattle by people trying to mimic Shirley and go viral like he did
This exonerates the WA AG none. The message is clear - don't look into this
Posted by somethingdifferent
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:53 pm to
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The point is that they're not doing work close to what Shirley did
Elaborate?

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that wasn't even anything close to sourced, traditional journalism itself
Who cares?
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