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re: VP Pence was in a Bunker

Posted on 1/10/21 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29637 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 1:55 pm to
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I admittedly have been disconnected from media since all of this happened. Can someone explain why people are angry at Pence?



31 down votes.... for asking an honest question.

I get it. People here are plugged in, and we all know what happened in the last 48 hours to the last letter of content.

Let's take a beat and realize sometimes being informative is useful, and being a dick is not persuasive.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6760 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 1:58 pm to
I really wish this would be true but I know it’s not
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
38585 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:34 pm to
Good for Pence. He can practice his 'steely glare' and 'righteous resolve' persona...so it'll add power on the Speech Circuit.

He choked in the clutch; I've suspected this since Trump chose him to buck up the Christian Base. Ha...Trump the playboy womanizer...and Pence who won't go in a room alone with another woman....and which fulfills their Oath to defend the Constitution and do the Lord's work?

"And many shall say Lord...and I will say depart from me, I never knew you...". I hope the Dems he helped empower, rip him to shreds.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:53 pm to
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Each of the 5 or 6 contested states had sent 2 sites of electors...


Bet you cant name a STATE that sent 2 sets of electors because it did not happen.

Are you a liar or just stupid?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:58 pm to
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Are you a liar or just stupid?





Coming from a Limpwristed Liberal!
Posted by Titus Pullo
MTDGA
Member since Feb 2011
28567 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:59 pm to
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Some news sites reported that the mob was chanting "Hang Mike Pence!"


And not a single cell phone video was to be found.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:06 pm to
There was no need to highlight that for your reply, we already know you are stupid, lying takes far more intellect than you possess.

Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
26689 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:07 pm to
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Some news sites reported that the mob was chanting "Hang Mike Pence!"

there was video of it... clear as day...

and the sad part is, even if it would have actually happened, Hawley and Cruz would still have objected, like they did, and people would still not see anything wrong with what happened at the Capitol... it truly is amazing how totally disillusioned some people have become because of their demagoguery
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:10 pm to
Smart enough to know to vote for my wallet.



Unlike your stupid arse, unless you are saying you are poor.
Posted by GregoryD
Member since Dec 2016
421 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:13 pm to
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Here’s the thing though...
I’m not saying “trust Ron” or any of that, but Ron called out Parler on Dec 10, and here we are a month later and Parler is frantically trying to save itself from being shut down by Amazon, who owns the servers that Parler runs on. Where do people think all that “secure” information is held? In the sky in a literal cloud?

Ron might not be right about some things but Dan should have known better than to hinge his “conservative safe space” chat app entirely at the whim of a leftist demigod who has an unlimited budget.


Parler has been breached multiple times.

Its tech stack is Wordpress, PHP, MySQL, and Linux. Their database server is their web server. Apparently they were too stupid to keep remote database backups, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they didn't keep an up to date remote git instance.

If the kooks really want to keep on with their nonsense, they can always try Mastodon for tweeting and Peertube for video, both of which are decentralized.
Posted by Goose Goslin
Member since Nov 2020
88 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:19 pm to
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Talk about brainwashed.

You and your ilk voted for this guy:

and actually believe that he won!


If the election were held today Biden would win by an even larger margin than he won on November 3rd.
Posted by DaDudeAbides
Member since Nov 2020
796 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:21 pm to
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He didn't follow through with their LARP fantasies.


"Muh Russian collusion"
Posted by GregoryD
Member since Dec 2016
421 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:23 pm to
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I admittedly have been disconnected from media since all of this happened. Can someone explain why people are angry at Pence?



Trumpkins were absolutely convinced that Pence had a wide range of powers that he did not have. They thought:

- that he could choose the uncertified ballots of people who were chosen as electors in the event that their candidate won (by definition, they were not official electors for this reason. The law requires that certified votes be accepted by Congress.)

- that he could simply refuse to count the ballots and throw the election to the state delegations (he could not do this. His duty was as President of the Senate. They would have removed him and Grassley would have taken over)

- that he could form an election commission if he wanted to investigate claims of voter fraud (the Electoral Count Act was created because the last time this was tried, it was a political circus)

Why? Because there are many right wingers who are legal illiterates. Pence's job, via the Constitution, the 12th amendment, and the Electoral Count Act, was to open state certified ballots, ask tellers to verify the contents, and note objections.

That's what he did. He did his duty to the US Constitution and for that, "patriots" hated him for it.

They were butthurt for the same reason that people on this board remain paranoid to this day: they are part of a political cult of personality that will not stop lying to them.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 3:24 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154454 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:26 pm to
kooks?

Progressives?
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:42 pm to
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believe everything their fellow idiots put on the net.
yeah. so gullible. believing things like all that objective evidence of fraud. rubes

it's amazing that there are STILL flat earth dems who won't believe any amount of evidence
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:44 pm to
Lots of people are rightfully mad, but at the wrong people.

Pence is a complete pansy. That's a fact.
But he didn't have much real legal authority to do anything about the election fraud.

The state legislatures in GA, PA, WI, MI, and AZ had ALL the power in the world, and instead of doing the right thing, they condoned and protected fraud.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:44 pm to
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“The state” sending a second set and “a person in the state” sending a second set arent the same.
does it not bother you that after hearing the evidence, officials from the swing states officially declared that their certification should be considered in dispute? does it not bother you that officials from more than half the states signed on to the texas scotus case?

it should bother any person who considers themselves reasonable. they should question the election if there are that many elected officials willing to go on record.
Posted by BiteMe2020
Texas
Member since Nov 2020
7284 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:45 pm to
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Seriously. Some of these fricking Trumptards literally have shite for brains and believe everything their fellow idiots put on the net.


It's a verifiable fact that the PA election was not Constitutional.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:45 pm to
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He counted the votes that were given to him, and certified by the states
fraudulently certified. any halfway clued up person knows this

the only people who don't know that are flat earthers
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:47 pm to
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Unfortunately for them, they have no proof
oh there's plenty of evidence. there are some cardboard cutouts who are still in denial about it

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That is why the legal system didn’t work for them
no. more than one judge said explicitly they didn't want the courts involved in any of those cases. it had nothing to do with the evidence. the only case the evidence actually mattered was the wi sc case that went for the challengers
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