re: Vivek supports 59% as a minimum inheritance tax. Rich people "owe" everyone else.

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I thought inheritance tax is a state tax
wow

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Smartest man in the room has cleared it all up for us. Not a big deal since no one here hits that $12.6 million threshold.

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Jealous much?

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I’m not jealous. I’m tired of living in a world dominated by the failsons of great men. Literally everything is crumbling everywhere and outside of maybe tech, all the leaders in both politics and business, and all the popular actors and musicians are just just people with rich connected parents. If they were doing a good job, I’d say let em keep it. Let’s have an aristocracy, but as it is, frick em

But that itself is a perfect reflection of my point…. I know that understanding a person’s tone on an anonymous message board is a legitimately difficult thing to do, so if we’re talking past each other, I understand where that comes from. But the simple truth is that I have not taken a single thing said in this thread personally. And you assuming that I am is now a second instance of you being fundamentally wrong about where I’m coming from.

And the reason I am trying to clarify those misconceptions is not because I’m taking things personally, but because if we can get past those misconceptions, we might be able to actually discuss the core topic of the thread. Which is a topic that I personally find interesting, so I’d very much like to discuss it.

If you don’t feel the same way, that’s fine, you can move on to another thread. But if you want to talk about this topic in this thread, and if you’re going to dismiss competing perspectives based on inaccurate estimations of who you think you are talking to, then I’m going to try and elucidate those inaccurate estimations so that we can get back to considering the validity of the arguments themselves.


With all of that said, I do realize that is certainly weird within the context of how most people use social media, so I won’t disagree with that characterization haha. But I also believe it’s a healthier way to communicate than what y’all tend to default to around, so I think it’s good weird haha.

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How many poor people have ever given you a job? Or provided the capital that provided you a job?

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So you think that because poor people don't have capital or jobs, we should try to get more taxes out of them?

I don't.

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I have not taken a single thing said in this thread personally.

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If that's true, you should stop acting like you took it personally.

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you can move on to another thread

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Pass.

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A progressive income tax structure and an inheritance tax with a moderate exemption.

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OK, and why do you think individual success is a good reason to tax someone at a disproportionate rate?

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You want to punish someone for being productive and successful and providing jobs to people with their company by taking it all away when they die.

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Some people certainly feel this way, and the poster you are responding to might be one of them.

But just to clarify, that is not what the proposal presented here is advocating for. The proposal is to maintain a very high threshold before any taxes at all are paid, after which point, approximately half of the rest goes to collective society rather than to just a handful of super lucky heirs and heiresses.

There’s a potentially valid moral argument you can make that those heirs and heiresses have a right to 100% of that money. But that is a different argument than the “the government just wants to take it all away” one that you’re going with here. That’s not what this proposal advocates.

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"Why do you rob banks, Willie?"

"'Cause that's where the money is."

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Most of the money in a bank doesn't belong to the people that get hit with estate taxes.

Yea, that’s not an accurate description of what happened here.

You made what seemed to be a one-off “young and dumb” comment. I responded with what I intended to be a one-off “young and dumb” reply.

You were the one who then decided to dig in your heels and explicitly argue that my lack of experience was the core issue with the positions I was taking. When it became clear that this was your sincerely held belief, I tried to help you correct that delusion.



But I’ll leave it. I’m just letting you know that you should probably spend a little time looking inward as well