re: Vivek Ramaswamy has star power unlike any other recent VP candidate

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The younger faces you see over and over, guys like Mike Johnson, are the face of the party now. That trend will continue. No need to go back to failed policy trumpeted by the party of old.

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There's absolutely zero difference between Mike Johnson and "the party of old".

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Vivek...the policies he supports

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The policies Vivek supports change constantly.

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so why then do we have never trumpers backed by Bush and co? Seems to me your ire should be with them and not the new direction of the Republican Party which should be called the America First party, right?

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You guys are delusional. The party isn't changing at all. You just like the guy leading the party now so you're willing to overlook all of his GOPe/RINO tendencies.

Trump himself just backed an establishment, Patriot Act RINO.

Trump, Graham and Johnson are working together to get $60-90 Billion sent to Ukraine.

Trump is floating major establishment donors as Treasury Secretary.

The RINOs won. They have a firmer grasp on the party now and they have the backing of the so-called "America First" coalition.

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the speaker of the house is America First

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He just worked with Democrats to get his spending bill past the more conservative members of the House.

5 things to know about Speaker Johnson’s spending deal with Democrats

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Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) is facing heat from his party’s right flank after striking a deal with Democrats on government funding that conservative hard-liners are already dismissing as a “total failure.”

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“Don’t be fooled. The DC Uniparty’s spending ‘deal’ is a total sham. The REAL topline spending level is $1.658 trillion—not $1.59 trillion. Our nation simply cannot afford the Swamp’s reckless spending habits,” Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-Ga.), who serves on the House Appropriations Committee and is a member of the Freedom Caucus, tweeted Monday.

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House passes government funding package in first step toward averting shutdown

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The conservative House Freedom Caucus came out in opposition to the funding package on Tuesday, saying in a statement that the text released so far "punts on nearly every single Republican policy priority" while giving away GOP leverage.

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First, several republican senators are America First, several fresh faces in congress are America First. Hell, Matt Gaetz ushered in the defeat of McCarthy and well, he's...uh, America First.

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There have always been some America First type people around. This isn't indicative of some sort of sea change.

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He's also a complete unknown and likely swampy trojan horse.

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this is why we can't have mice things.

At some point you have to trust people.

I could make a better case for Vivek being america first moreso than trump.

Vivek sees WAY more of the issues clearly.

Perhaps they can't think critically or need their hand held by some talking head to say it's ok? Who knows, but it is quite a terrible way to live without trust in others.

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Trump won Iowa in 2016?

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Dude your posting level has fallen into the abyss. What office does someone hold after winning the Iowa caucus? :JeopardyTheme:

Hint: Iowa is like one of 50 precincts. Winning it DOES NOT win 'a race' of any kind

Your analogy is like the team handing off the baton in 1st place, after the first leg of a 4x100 relay. They dont then get to sprint over to the podium, and step up to the gold medal platform. The race aint over

Viveks is

Interesting list. Its reasonings are in my opinion sophomoric but I appreciate your contribution to the thread.

It’s a short list:
Vivek. Reasonings as stated above. For me, the answer is obvious. My only hope is Trump sees it the same way. We are growing to an untenable point in this nation’s history where very tough and seemingly drastic changes need to occur. For that, we need policies firm enough and people wise enough to fairly explain the whats and the whys so folks can understand. We need someone who will fight but also someone who is smart enough to see the deeds done.

Vivek has a plan for removing the department of education, the IRS, the CDC, reorganizing the FBI, cutting 75% of the federal workforce, etc. This will remove the centralized power structure in DC and bring it back to the people. It will crush the teachers union which only seek to poison the minds of our youth.

These are the types of ideas and plans that need implementation and all can be done via constitutional authority by the executive branch. Will there be a fight? You bet. Will it go to the Supreme Court? Most likely, but these plans need to happen to save this country.


Further, deporting the millions of illegal immigrants here in this country is paramount as well and Vivek and Trump have vowed to do so as well. That will not come without pain and it will take a leader who is strong enough to weather that storm as well.

This is not a 4 year battle, it’s a 12 year war and we will need a man like Vivek to carry the baton and finish what Trump has started. The policies are clear and Vivek is the only one I’ve seen who has clearly laid out not only the problem but also the viable solution.

The names you listed are fluff. Hell Pompeo was the CIA chief has since come to be caustic to America First ideals. That’s your Trojan horse.

My only hope is Trump sees it the same way and sadly from his track record, I’m not sure he will make this dire and important move. But if he does, it will signal an important step forward to righting the ship. Taking the gloves off and actually doing the heavy lifting needed to save this constitutional republic.

Do it not and I’m afraid it’s quite over for you and I.

Not this tired attack again. Vivek has spoken at length about this over and over. I swear it’s like playing whack-a-mole. He took a scholarship. So what? Use critical thinking, perhaps more than one source, perhaps, especially in this case, you can seek Vivek’s own comments on the matter, not some cheeky little article you found. Do some damn due diligence and quit being led by the nose.

So you post meaningless attacks that take seconds to disprove... Pompeo would be a disaster and Barr, are you kidding me? It’s not early. We are past the primaries. This is make or break time. And again, it’s not just about this election it’s the next 12 years and you can’t even do the simplest of due diligence before you scramble to find someone else’s words to parrot as your own.

You are a mockingbird and representation of how difficult it really must be to run for office. Imagine having to go county to county and engage with the same yokels proffering the same questions offered by the same outlets as if they thought it themselves. It must be mind melting.

And if you haven’t seen enough, simply go and learn more. There’s hours and hours of interviews. There are books you can read. While you’re at it, check out Friedman and Hayek and Smith.