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re: Virginia police officers threatened Army Lt. during stop (Body Cam footage included)
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:19 pm to Jeauxs Geaux
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:19 pm to Jeauxs Geaux
quote:
Evading is generally a felony, no?
No, it is not.
quote:
he is refusing commands its a felony stop
That didn’t happen till he called it a felony stop and got out of his cruiser.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 6:21 pm
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:19 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:
footage included) by RockyMtnTigerWDE
Didn’t the officer also say that it happens to him a lot people looking for well lit areas and 80% of them were minorities, or did I read that wrong?
So, are either of those inaccurate?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:20 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:
Didn’t the officer also say that it happens to him a lot people looking for well lit areas and 80% of them were minorities, or did I read that wrong?
Yes, that is a quote from the officer backing up the first officer who was already in pursuit.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:20 pm to Jeauxs Geaux
quote:Correction, they told him 20 times "to show your hands AND get out of the car."
The cops may have been dicks and used bad words but if they have to tell you 20 times to show your hands and or get out of the car then you're the problem
Unless you're a contortionist with opposable toes, that's a damn hard order to comply with.
and my personal experience ...
I was wearing my white lab coat and scrubs in route to a life threatening hospital emergency, and got pulled one morning on the interstate. After pulling over, the cop was sitting in his car behind me on the shoulder for an inordinately long time. So I finally stepped out of my car to explain the situation to him. He threw open his door, crouched behind it, reached for his holster, and screamed for me to get back in the vehicle. If I was a Black man, I'd have assumed the SOB was a racist when in fact he was a simple, albeit dangerous, imbecile.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:21 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Is the Lt. a tranny? If not, no one cares
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:22 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:
Is the dash cam footage out there somewhere?
I would bet ABC has it, but chose to not include that in their article.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:23 pm to Jeauxs Geaux
quote:
So, are either of those inaccurate?
With that knowledge and he stopped in a well lit area then it should be familiar that he was not eluding. Also, how do you keep your hands out the window and get out having to undo a seatbelt?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:24 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:
I would bet ABC has it, but chose to not include that in their article.
I find it hard to believe that whoever gave them the body cam footage doesn't also have the dash cam footage. To me, excluding that information is more than suspect.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:25 pm to Jeauxs Geaux
quote:A couple of problems with your take. (1) The license plate was not missing. (2) He was not evading. (3) The order as given was impossible to comply with ... unless you know how one exits a car while keeping both hands out of the window.
Evading is generally a felony, no?
If his license plate is missing and he is refusing commands its a felony stop, whether it ultimately gets charged that way or not
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:25 pm to NC_Tigah
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Correction, they told him 20 times "to show your hands AND get out of the car."
I heard "show your hands" only, about 10 times, then "open the door" several times, which is easily and reasonably accomplished with hands visible, which would have allowed him to remove his seatbelt with his hands remaining visible...
You just have to listen and comply. The Army dude should have been changed with resisting if nothing else
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:26 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Windsor is a shite hole.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:26 pm to imjustafatkid
Yes, I would love to see the events leading up to it with the dash cam. Was he making elusive actions or does it show him looking for a well lit area.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:27 pm to imjustafatkid
That’s the state of American media. Straight out of the Soviet Russian playbook.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:27 pm to Jeauxs Geaux
quote:
I heard "show your hands" only, about 10 times, then "open the door" several times, which is easily and reasonably accomplished with hands visible, which would have allowed him to remove his seatbelt with his hands remaining visible...
Yeah I'm not sure how folks are watching this video and coming to the conclusion that he didn't have time to comply.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:28 pm to NC_Tigah
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(3) The order as given was impossible to comply with ... unless you know how one exits a car while keeping both hands out of the window.
Are y'all being obtuse or stupid?
Hands out window, hand opens door from outside, now hands are visible to remove seatbelt, exits vehicle...
Pretty fricking easy broham
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:28 pm to Jeauxs Geaux
I usually side with the cops but not this one at least with the footage I have seen. Show me the footage leading up to it and I may feel differently.
When he said he didn’t need to get outbid his vehicle the one cop decided to show him he was wrong even after he asks for a supervisor to come to the stop.
When he said he didn’t need to get outbid his vehicle the one cop decided to show him he was wrong even after he asks for a supervisor to come to the stop.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:29 pm to NC_Tigah
Do vehicle door handles only work from the inside of your Subaru?
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:30 pm to Jeauxs Geaux
quote:The door was locked! Didn't you see the cop try to open it?
Hands out window, hand opens door from outside,
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:33 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:The door handles on my 911 don't work from the outside when the doors are locked. Perhaps they do on a Subaru though.
Do vehicle door handles only work from the inside of your Subaru?
Posted on 4/9/21 at 6:35 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
The door was locked! Didn't you see the cop try to open it?
They were back at their cars for at least 4 minutes (of what we are shown). He had plenty of time to do whatever he needed to do to get out of the car.
ETA: Had to edit, because we have no idea if the body cam footage is complete. The second body cam video linked definitely does not start at the beginning.
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 6:39 pm
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