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re: Vegas Odds For The Election
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:23 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:23 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
If Biden's enthusiasm problems don't matter then why is he still out making appearances and campaigning on the campaign trail? And doing solo town halls if and when debates don't work out?
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:28 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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enthusiasm issues don’t matter because so many Americans are voting for him to get Trump out
Thats what it will come down to, how many people strongly support Trump vs how many people strongly oppose him.
I do not strongly oppose him personally but I also dont think he is beyond fault. He has done some great things, and some questionable ones.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:38 am to CrimsonFever
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how many people strongly support Trump vs how many people strongly oppose him
And the presumption is that those who strongly oppose him will automatically vote for Biden? Is it not possible that a healthy number of people could oppose both thus vote for neither? I just have a difficult time believing that people will not require anything of Biden and give him their vote, basically site unseen, out of a severe enough hatred of Trump.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 12:41 am to davyjones
The ones that strongly oppose him will probably vote against him.
There are also a lot like me who dont strongly oppose or support him, I do hope he condemns white supremacists' next debate. I know he has done it before, but it would've been the perfect opportunity for him to do it during the first debate when everyone was watching and he didnt for some reason.
I don't think he is racist, but he needs to distance himself from the far right to get the moderate vote.
There are also a lot like me who dont strongly oppose or support him, I do hope he condemns white supremacists' next debate. I know he has done it before, but it would've been the perfect opportunity for him to do it during the first debate when everyone was watching and he didnt for some reason.
I don't think he is racist, but he needs to distance himself from the far right to get the moderate vote.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 12:47 am
Posted on 10/13/20 at 1:14 am to CrimsonFever
Fair enough. Of course that brings up the obvious follow up question.....Keeping in mind his prior unambiguous disavowals on video, in the event he not re-disavow at all or perhaps not in the manner expected, would that cause you (or should it anyone else) to no-vote or maybe even vote for Biden?
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 1:15 am
Posted on 10/13/20 at 1:16 am to davyjones
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I just have a difficult time believing that people will not require anything of Biden and give him their vote, basically site unseen, out of a severe enough hatred of Trump.
almost everyone I know that isn't a diehard Trump fan is doing exactly this
Posted on 10/13/20 at 1:36 am to NawlinsTiger9
Hole up. So even if they're neither here nor there on Trump....Biden vote? Or just kinda dislike Trump, or just regular "I don't really like him"....all Biden votes? All the while not being particularly impressed with Biden??
Are they aware they can simply abstain from voting altogether? Could you check and make sure they know, please??
Are they aware they can simply abstain from voting altogether? Could you check and make sure they know, please??
Posted on 10/13/20 at 1:49 am to CrimsonFever
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CrimsonFever
Vegas Odds For The Election
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enthusiasm issues don’t matter because so many Americans are voting for him to get Trump out
Thats what it will come down to, how many people strongly support Trump vs how many people strongly oppose him.
I do not strongly oppose him personally but I also dont think he is beyond fault. He has done some great things, and some questionable ones.
Historically the voter voting FOR someone will be the more enthusiastic voter and statistically has a much better chance to actually show up and pull the lever over the voter voting AGAINST someone.
Not saying this will happen this election but historically the more enthusiastic voter voting FOR someone doesn’t need additional GOTV campaigning like the voter who is voting against the other guy and doesn’t have strong feelings towards the candidate they are voting for.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 1:53 am
Posted on 10/13/20 at 1:55 am to NawlinsTiger9
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Vegas Odds For The Election
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I just have a difficult time believing that people will not require anything of Biden and give him their vote, basically site unseen, out of a severe enough hatred of Trump.
almost everyone I know that isn't a diehard Trump fan is doing exactly this
they tell you they are today but will they really really show up and vote? And if they really are and what your saying is true the maybe we are really doomed.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:12 am to bigbowe80
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they tell you they are today but will they really really show up and vote?
the ones I know can't wait to show up and vote against him
not Biden fans, just sick of Trump
I think it's legit. You can't pride yourself on instigating and trolling people for 4 years and then be surprised when they show up en masse to attempt to vote you out.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:36 am to NawlinsTiger9
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instigating and trolling people for 4 years and
How has Trump instigating anything?? All he does is respond to vicious attacks against him.
He is agains POLICY that he thinks is harmful to the American interests as a whole.
The only ones who are 'instigating and trolling' are the DEMs.
But if you attack him, he will respond like a wounded bear.
Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:54 am to ChineseBandit58
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How has Trump instigating anything?
Dude. Come on now
Posted on 10/13/20 at 3:06 am to NawlinsTiger9
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Come on now
c'mon man - what has he "instigated?"
Revival of the American spirit???
Insistence on America first??
Protecting our borders??
Bringing manufacturing back home ??
cutting taxes??
I think you are confusing his reluctance to surrender as antagonism
And what 'instigations' are from the DEM side??
- You're a racist
- you're a nazi
- you hate immigrants
- you want to be a dictator
- you're a traitor
- you hate women
- you use your office to enrich yourself
- you're Putin's puppet
- etc etc etc
Posted on 10/13/20 at 6:05 am to dreigh
I am pretty sure it is still illegal for Vegas to take wagers on elections. But they can set odds. Bets are taken in offshore accounts I had Trump at +500 last year and then bet about 8 states at different odds. But unless things have changed Vegas is just putting out odds and cant take bets
Posted on 10/13/20 at 6:40 am to StPeteLSU
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I am pretty sure it is still illegal for Vegas to take wagers on elections. But they can set odds. Bets are taken in offshore accounts I had Trump at +500 last year and then bet about 8 states at different odds. But unless things have changed Vegas is just putting out odds and cant take bets
So Vegas adjusts the line based on offshore accounts? Or is it just some BS model (like we need another one of those)?
Posted on 10/13/20 at 6:42 am to CrimsonFever
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Democrats aren't going to rallies because of the pandemic.
And a lot of them won’t vote either.
Dems have scared them into staying home.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 6:43 am
Posted on 10/13/20 at 6:55 am to Sisyphus
Which is exactly how the betting game goes!
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:16 am to NawlinsTiger9
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You can't pride yourself on instigating and trolling people for 4 years
Let me make up evidence, accuse you of being "traitor to your country" for 3 years as President and see how you feel.
sounds to you like he just has to take it on the chin?
Douche
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:17 am to ChineseBandit58
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c'mon man - what has he "instigated?"
Revival of the American spirit???
Insistence on America first??
Protecting our borders??
Bringing manufacturing back home ??
cutting taxes??
I think you are confusing his reluctance to surrender as antagonism
And what 'instigations' are from the DEM side??
- You're a racist
- you're a nazi
- you hate immigrants
- you want to be a dictator
- you're a traitor
- you hate women
- you use your office to enrich yourself
- you're Putin's puppet
- etc etc etc
he knows this.
He lacks critical thinking....
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