re: Vaccine Apologists - feel free to come into this thread and eat your crow

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never held opinions/positions several regular posters in these threads believe you do.

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This is becoming comical. How can I confirm or deny these positions when you won’t say what they are. Name these positions I have taken and I will defend them or perhaps admit I was wrong in those positions. Otherwise how the frick am I supposed to know what you are anyone else is talking about???

Nobody expects you to know what anyone is talking about.

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They knew about it for years?

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No, I mean it isn't the first vaccine to cause myocarditis. Smallpox blah blah

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You're schizophrenic

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Post the statistics.

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I'm literally going to use a link that THINKS it supports your position to beat you over the head with my dick.

“There is a 1 in 3,000 risk for myocarditis (MIS-C) in patients with COVID-19,” Dr. Pei-Ni Jone, cardiologist director of quality in echocardiography and director of Kawasaki Disease Clinic at Children’s Hospital Colorado, and a professor of pediatrics at University of Colorado School of Medicine, told Healthline. “This risk is much higher than 1 in 50,000 to 1 in 100,000 in myocarditis associated with the vaccine.”

The writer of that quote meant it for retarded people like you. The fun part is, they literally refute themselves a couple of paragraphs later but are either oblivious or dishonest.

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“The majority of the cases occurred in male patients between the ages of 12 to 39 years. The estimated rate of myocarditis following vaccination in males is approximately 41 cases per million persons. For females, the rate is 20 times less frequent,” he told Healthline.

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So, what does this mean?

Well, they played you. The first paragraph gave you the stat for ALL people who get COVID. And, if you're 75, it is definitely true that getting COVID is riskier for your heart than the vaccine. Hell, it would appear that might even be true if you are female of ANY age.

HOWEVER, with MOST cases of vaccine induced heart issues occurring in people 12-39, ...........and people between 12-39 being a TINY FRACTION of those who actually get sick at all LINK this means that for THAT cohort(especially the dudes), the risk is FAR frickING GREATER YOU GODDAMNED MORON.

Stay away from discussions that require you to think beyond the headline. You aren't good at them.

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6. For the average adult, who is healthy, it's probably six of one or a half dozen of the other as to whether to be vaccinated.

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Not quite.

The risk reward has a VERY steep negative curve starting at about age 60 working down.

By the time you get to 40, there's virtually no rationale for an otherwise healthy person to get the vaccine.

At 20, it is now starting to be legit arguable that the reward is lower than the risk. Especially for males.