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re: Uvalde Police Prevented Border Patrol From Entering School to Stop Gunman For 1 hour

Posted on 5/27/22 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35706 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 3:09 pm to
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McCraw choked up as he shared details of at least eight 911 calls made by students inside the classrooms before police made entry. He said the first student called 911 at 12:03 p.m., and calls continued for more than 45 minutes, during which operators could hear gunfire over the phone. At 12:16, McGraw said, a girl called to report that "eight to nine" students were alive. She called back 30 minutes later, begging for help, saying she could hear officers outside the classroom.

"Please send the police now," she said, according to McGraw.




Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2482 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 3:10 pm to
911 was getting repeated calls from a kid inside the classroom saying people were dead and begging them to send the police now.

The “we didn’t know there were kids in there” is bullshite. Or another huge communication lapse if 911 wasn’t telling police they were still getting calls from inside the classroom.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
21043 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 3:12 pm to
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Gave an hour for the victims to bleed out. Terrible


An hour for victims to bleed out when minutes could save lives.

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
52552 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31868 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 3:23 pm to
Was the guy shooting during that hour? I see some people saying he was. Or did he blow all his ammo early on?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
29895 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 3:28 pm to
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Was the guy shooting during that hour?

Yes. There were shots heard on the 911 call being made from kids inside the classroom more than 20 minutes after the cowards lined up outside in the hallway, and 30 minutes before the cowards went in.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
22613 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 3:30 pm to
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What's weird is that during that hour, there is no doubt they heard rounds getting fired off. Were they standing around jerking eachother off?

Too busy arresting and pepper spraying parents
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35706 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 3:34 pm to
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11:35 Three Uvalde Police Department officers enter the school through the same door used by the gunman and two are grazed by gunfire. Four more officers later enter the building, including the deputy county sheriff. Both doors into the adjoining classrooms where the gunman is located are locked at this time.

11:37 Another 16 rounds are fired.

11:51 The police sergeant and other law enforcement agents start to arrive.

12:03 p.m.By this time, as many as 19 officers have gathered in the school hallway. A student calls 911 and whispers that she is in Room 112. The call lasts 1 minute 23 seconds.

12:10 The same student calls 911 again and says that multiple people are dead.

12:13The same student again calls 911.

12:15 Members of the Border Patrol Tactical Unit arrive with shields.

12:16The same student calls 911 again and says eight to nine students are still alive.

12:19A different student, this one in Room 111, calls, but hangs up when another student tells her to.

12:21 The gunman, believed to be at the classroom door, fires again. Officers move down the hallway. Shots are heard over a 911 call from inside.

12:36The first student calls 911 again. She is told to stay on the line and stay quiet. The student tells 911 that the gunman shot the door.

12:43 and 12:47The student on the line asks 911 to please send the police now.

12:46The student says that she can hear the police next door.

12:50 Law enforcement officers breach a classroom door using keys they’ve obtained from a janitor and kill the suspect. Shots are heard over the 911 call.

12:51 On the 911 call, officers can be heard moving children out of the classroom. When the call ends, the same child who had called is outside.


LINK

I would be quite happy if the Uvalde police station is burned to the ground.
Posted by Kattail
Member since Aug 2020
3581 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 4:05 pm to
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Engage the shooter until neutralized. There is NO other acceptable course of action in an active shooter situation


Isn’t that they trained and equipped for? Active Shooter Doctrine
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31868 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 4:06 pm to
fricking shite.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
114040 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 4:15 pm to
Brutal.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
23836 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 4:17 pm to
Holy shite. How can any of these men live with themselves
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2482 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 4:47 pm to
That is sickening.

It’s also a completely different timeline than what they offered yesterday, which was completely different from what they said the day before. Specifically about the initial engagement between the shooter and law enforcement.
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
3693 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 4:49 pm to
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these very rat-frickers will be the ones tasked with confiscating our guns. VIDEO IN LINK: The cops literally stopped parents from helping their kids….


I know this is off topic a bit and I'm not trying to start at shite or derail the thread--but this is prime example of how we would be powerless if a government tried to detain us as a people. The 2nd amendment be damn..

Fighting for your child's life is the ultimate stand up for your family moment and trumps any notion of country values. And I'm sure all of those parents wanted to do whatever they could, no matter if they died to protect their kids.

And yet they were easily detained and forced into submission by an arm of the government--powerless
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 10:44 am
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
29895 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 4:52 pm to
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Holy shite. How can any of these men live with themselves

If the commander on the ground who made the call to sit in the hallway had any honor, he’d put a shotgun in his mouth. Every officer that was there should have to turn in their badge.
Posted by TxRan2020
Texas
Member since May 2020
618 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 7:38 pm to
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I hate to tell those Feds and they can get over this, but if thats my kids or grandchildren in there and no ones going in, my heartfelt advice to them is to move, because if they don't I will move them.

That's family, and don't get in my way. I won't get in theirs if they are doing their jobs but I won't stand by and watch a slaughter



Damn straight. They’d have to catch me to stop me!
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2260 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 7:42 pm to
Police too busy cuffing parents and others trying to help the kids.
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