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re: USSC OSHA Ruling Watch: Day 3

Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:41 am to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
42496 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:41 am to
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So if you want to know how many people are jabbed at your job, your employer is required to give you that information as part of the ETS.


We would have no idea. We havn't asked.
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7940 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:41 am to
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I just want to know how many people have bent the knee.


A lot. Way more than you'd think.

Every person I talk to about this, says almost everyone ends up getting the vaxx vs losing job.

Best guess, for every 100 who ask and are denied an exemption. 2 or 3 quit/get fired over it once it's denied. The rest take the jab.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
70789 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:51 am to
3% attrition expected for exempt employees is what I've seen.

MUCH higher for salaried workers. As high as 40%. Thats whats got this all hung up. Most companies could easily function 3% lighter on office staff. They collapse within a week with that much hourly attrition in one swoop.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:55 am to
They can suck my fricking dick

Vaccine mandate is a declaration of war as far as I’m concerned. We’re not talking about Hepatitis vaccines or vaccines that actually work, were talking about a vaccine that obviously doesn’t work and was created and pushed by the same people that created and released the virus.

If the Supreme Court can no longer do its job, it’s war time, period
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:57 am to
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3% attrition expected for exempt employees is what I've seen


Between return to office and the vaccine mandate that took effect on January 4, my company of 50,000 lost 20-30% of the workforce. That’s the rumor, anyway.
Posted by SCUBAislander
Member since Feb 2007
2840 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:58 am to
Will not comply...ever. I would move to the furthest reaches of society and live like a pioneer before I bow down to this tyranny.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3116 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 9:59 am to
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That is so employees can tattle the violations to osha.


While I agree that is the intent, and that is how it will be used by many, it’s still useful information. Just as employees have to “put their cards on the table” by proving their vax status to the employer, the employer must do the same regarding total number of vaxxed/unvaxxed in the company.

If you find out that 50% of staff is unvaxxed, you have a better idea of your bargaining power with the company. Either they are granting lots of exemptions or they are about to lose a significant portion of their workforce. If you find out it’s 95% vaxxed, you may have less leverage, depending on your specific role within the company.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83553 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:01 am to
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So if you want to know how many people are jabbed at your job, your employer is required to give you that information as part of the ETS.




Yup, same as this admin has done from the start, tried to pit groups against each other...
Posted by skylane
Polebridge Montana
Member since Oct 2005
2575 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:03 am to
Of 120 employees in our office, 40 have been vaxxed.

In July our corporate sent out an email indicating we are 75% vaxxed.... a total lie!
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1083 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:06 am to
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While I agree that is the intent, and that is how it will be used by many, it’s still useful information. Just as employees have to “put their cards on the table” by proving their vax status to the employer, the employer must do the same regarding total number of vaxxed/unvaxxed in the company.

If you find out that 50% of staff is unvaxxed, you have a better idea of your bargaining power with the company. Either they are granting lots of exemptions or they are about to lose a significant portion of their workforce. If you find out it’s 95% vaxxed, you may have less leverage, depending on your specific role within the company.


This

If you go the weekly testing route some companies might not offer it with just a low % of unvaxxed. If you company is at 50% and you know it maybe you can get them to offer the testing and pay for the test. If it's like 1% unvaxxed your probly fricked on staying there with no shot.

Not going to lie got my nerves all bad waiting to here the decision to see what my company's next step will be.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:14 am to
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WSJ Mandate Obsolete
A beautiful read! Comments are awesome as well.


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Golftro


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Member since Sep 2013


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2 posts




Here's a link to the article via Archive to get past the paywall.

Archive WSJ

Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
3800 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:21 am to
The company that I work for has a little over 900 employees. About 110 salaried and the rest is skilled craft labor. The vaccine mandates have never been mentioned in any company issued emails to hourly employees or mid level managers.

I am on the senior leadership team at corporate and we have group discussed our contingency plan if there is not a stay issued. Several of us are adamantly against the mandates. Myself, two other VPS, and our COO are not and do not plan to get the shots. Our 65 year old CEO, 61 years old CFO, and two late 40s VPS have received the shots already. Senior leadership is split down the middle on who has taken the shots.

We intend to do weekly testing for those who are against the shot if it is not stayed. Still working on trying to figure out how to make that work and how to pay for it.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
61996 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:29 am to
Why doesn’t the SC simply deem the mandate a overreach of Executive power and strike it down, instead of simply issuing a stay and allowing this to drag on? Just end it already!
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35461 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:39 am to
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Why doesn’t the SC simply deem the mandate a overreach of Executive power and strike it down,

They could do that.
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simply issuing a stay and allowing this to drag on

But given SCOTUS' preference for letting the Circuit and district courts handle the merits of most issues first, this is probably a better bet. The issue before the Court is focused on the stay, not the merits:
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Issue: Whether the Supreme Court should issue a stay of OSHA's vaccine-or-testing regime for all businesses with 100 or more employees.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 10:45 am
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50575 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:41 am to
Have they said anything?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35461 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:42 am to
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Have they said anything?


Not yet. The Court is actually hearing arguments right now in another matter.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39130 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:44 am to
They are hearing oral arguments for Gallardo v. Marstiller right now.

https://www.supremecourt.gov/
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83553 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:46 am to
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Not yet. The Court is actually hearing arguments right now in another matter.



So is it possible when they wrap up, that they announce? Or will it be pushed out via the Scotus website?
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50575 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:48 am to
The longer they don’t say anything the worse I feel. And the covidians are about to fricking giddy with this shite.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17113 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:49 am to
This is crazy. This should have been struck down last week.
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