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USA v Russia/China hypothetical war

Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Ghazi
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:14 pm
in a pointless hypothetical, if these countries declared war on each other and militaries got involved who would win and how/why? Statistically the USA is stronger than the next 5 militaries in the world combined.
Posted by Yat27
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:15 pm to
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if these countries declared war on each other and militaries got involved who would win


No one
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:17 pm to
No one.

Mutual destruction, if we had a POTUS with balls. If not, no more USA.

I wouldn't want to live through it.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:18 pm to
The US would beat them like a rented mule
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:18 pm to
What would this war look like? Are we invading their land, are they invading ours, or are we fighting elsewhere, like in Europe?
Posted by Ghazi
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:18 pm to
Assume nukes are not used
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:18 pm to
If we take nukes out of the equation, USA.

If we don't, USA
Posted by MSCoastTigerGirl
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:20 pm to
Either way, we would win.

But no nukes and we frick their world up. We have the best military in the world. They wouldn't stand a chance.

That's why we have the freedom that we do.
Posted by Ghazi
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:20 pm to
globalfirepower.com has some cool military stats. USA has close to 14000 aircraft, China/Russia have close to 6000 combined.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:22 pm to
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we take nukes out of the equation, USA.

If we don't, USA



This.



Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:29 pm to
Nukes would be the only way to make this a somewhat fair fight for China and Russia
Posted by socraticsilence
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:32 pm to
Define win. do you mean hold an invasion? actually invade? or what because the answers change depending on the scenario.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:35 pm to
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The admins were tired of you yelling at everyone... It made them nervous.




Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:36 pm to
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in a pointless hypothetical, if these countries declared war on each other and militaries got involved who would win and how/why?


No one would. America could probably get by without Russian trade, but the entire world economy would collapse completely if China and the US were to go to war. We are now way too interlinked as an economy to make even financially viable for China and the US to go to war with one another. A completely crazy person would have to be in charge of one of our countries in order for it to happen. I can't see a real scenario that the US and China go to war within my lifetime.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 6:39 pm to
That's why we need to leave this rock man.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 7:50 pm to
If we fight a pussified politically correct war like all of the wars we've fought since WW2 then we would lose.

If we fight the war with a "gloves are off" approach like we did in WW2 then we win easily.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:06 pm to
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in a pointless hypothetical, if these countries declared war on each other and militaries got involved who would win and how/why? Statistically the USA is stronger than the next 5 militaries in the world combined.
No one would win. The human race would lose.
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Assume nukes are not used
Well, takes reality out if it, but ok.

Still no one. There would be no land invasion of any of the countries since that would make zero strategic sense since actually invading and holding these countries would be an impossibility. Missiles might be used, but without the destructive capabilities if nuclear warheads, they would be largely ineffective.

The war would be fought in other countries.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 8:10 pm
Posted by jmarto1
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:35 pm to
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No one would. America could probably get by without Russian trade, but the entire world economy would collapse completely if China and the US were to go to war. We are now way too interlinked as an economy to make even financially viable for China and the US to go to war with one another. A completely crazy person would have to be in charge of one of our countries in order for it to happen. I can't see a real scenario that the US and China go to war within my lifetime.


Yes! China going to war with us would be economic suicide. If anything, they would drop all of that currency they've been hoarding into our stock market and frick shite up. A war with China wouldn't be done with bombs and guns. It would be done with economics and hackers.

quote:

If we fight a pussified politically correct war like all of the wars we've fought since WW2 then we would lose.

If we fight the war with a "gloves are off" approach like we did in WW2 then we win easily.


Another good one. Tell our generals/commanders to follow the Geneva convention and that's it. They wreck shop when their hands aren't tied.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 8:45 pm to
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If we fight a pussified politically correct war like all of the wars we've fought since WW2 then we would lose. If we fight the war with a "gloves are off" approach like we did in WW2 then we win easily.


We haven't faced a threat like WWII since then. Cold war is arguable as a threat, but not a true war.
Posted by JAXTiger16
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 9:15 pm to
I see us winning as of now. We have a greater force and more allies to use their ports. We could resupply anywhere in the world where China and Russia are very limited. These two countries bully so many nations so they have only a few small countries that would have their back.
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