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re: US spy agencies agreed Iran wasn't building a nuke before war started

Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:28 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:28 pm to


Show me Trump claiming this is about China.

Do it. We both know youre making it up to somehow make it more palatable.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39640 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:28 pm to
What a Con! It’s the old “believe me and not your lying eyes “ narrative. It’s ludicrous to assume and insane to promote the lie that the Mullahs don’t want and haven’t been assembling the materials and machinery for nukes for decades. They know that possessing nuclear tipped ballistic missiles is THE only guarantee that their regime survives. They are and were right and but for the ruthless Trump they were close to being able to ASSEMBLE that weapon in short order; and when they did they would then be protected via the MAD deterrent narrative.

It is simplistic and laughable to even offer what is really just a spin on words like *wasn’t* while they build stock piles that could be assembled real quick when it was time to make their MAD declaration.

Geez!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298982 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:29 pm to
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And you’re making up the idea that it’s not


Thats retarded.

The only person saying its about China is Bongs and possibly some retarded influencers.

Can you link me to trump making this claim?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36709 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:31 pm to
Oh that’s your go to move now, any argument must be verbatim from Trump’s mouth, or it can’t be true??

Show me where Trump said he did it solely because of Israel.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18594 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:33 pm to
We falling into the same perpetual external boogeyman trap. Some say China, some say Russia, some say Israel, etc. As a whole, we seem to want to believe our country has been going downhill for several decades due to foreign interference. Because the most likely alternative is something no one wants to accept.

The most likely alternative is, Americans are responsible for America decaying. We are the most powerful nation to ever exist in the history of human civilization. If power alone was used to gauge countries, then we'd be the only first world country in the world. DC is used as a gigantic piggy bank by Americans who are politicians or gov employees who move up the ladder. You can try to blame external boogeymen for utilizing that greed and getting DC to essentially move in the direction they want. But as long as DC is for sell, there will always be someone willing to pay. If DC ever becomes a true representative of all the united states, then there would be no "external boogeymen".
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298982 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:33 pm to
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Oh that’s your go to move now, any argument must be verbatim from Trump’s mouth,


There is zero evidence it has anything to do with China.

In fact, Trump claims China is responsible for bringing Iran to the negotiating tab le.
quote:


Trump says he believes China got Iran to come to the negotiating table


LINK


Bongs is literally making it up
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36709 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:37 pm to
To say that there is literally, quantitatively zero angle(s) of the entire thing having to do with China, as big a factor as China is world affairs and specifically affecting America, is simply outright obtuse. Did you expect that every single aspect of their thinking and conceptualizing on this was going to clearly conveyed to you?
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 7:39 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298982 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:39 pm to
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To say that there is literally, quantitatively zero angle(s)


The trump administration has said zip, zero, zilch regarding the China angle.

Bongs made up the China angle because he realizes the Trump admin messaging is chaotic and incongruent.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84678 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:42 pm to
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I guess we’re in the “but they had all the components to do it” stage of this one.


I’m in the “but they are exporters of fundamentalist Islam and terrorism and have now teamed up with China” stage.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59461 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:42 pm to
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Or, are we not in a war because we are in Project Freedom?


We aren’t in a war because it’s not a war.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68327 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:43 pm to
Special military operation?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59461 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:43 pm to
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Beautiful. Minimum wage is $275 per month. quote:China’s average cost of living is about 55–74% lower than the U.S Whats your point?


Oh this is beautiful Roger. Do the math. You will see the point. Unless, of course you can’t do the math…
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59461 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:45 pm to

quote:

Show me Trump claiming this is about China.


Good lord, Roger. I e posted this three times now.

quote:

And of course Trump isn’t going to advertise to China they are trying to limit their oil. Good Lord, Roger. How can you not know that.



quote:

Do it. We both know youre making it up to somehow make it more palatable.


At least you can admit that if it’s about China is justified. You’re halfway there.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:45 pm to
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you understand that guy is a former disgruntled employee right?


Joe Kent is George Washington and cannot tell a lie. Everyone else is lying. Not Joe Kent.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59461 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:47 pm to
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Show me where Trump said he did it solely because of Israel.


boom. Hoisted on his own petard.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59461 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:48 pm to
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Trump says he believes China got Iran to come to the negotiating table


amazing. So Venezuela and Iran got China to make a move. And you can’t see it’s about China? You dumb idiot. Why else would China get involved?

You proved my point. You’re just too dumb to recognize it. My goodness.
This post was edited on 5/8/26 at 7:51 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36709 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:48 pm to
Well the problem is that there just isn’t much precedence when it comes to these intelligence community guys lying through their teeth. So it’s hard to believe they’d cross that red line now. Know what I mean? There’s just no history of it happening.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59461 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:49 pm to
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Special military operation?
m
Sure.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128773 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:49 pm to
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Bongs made up the China angle because he realizes the Trump admin messaging is chaotic and incongruent.


fricking retarded Roger.
Go back to banland.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298982 posts
Posted on 5/8/26 at 7:49 pm to
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Good lord, Roger. I e posted this three times now.



And I have posted this three times.

Youre literally making it up because you distrust Trumps reasoning and think its shaky too.

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