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re: US Senate votes to TERMINATE President Trump's 50% tariffs on Brazilian imports, 52-48.

Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:58 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52481 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:58 am to
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You would have hated college if you had went.

Roger, Did you went?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:58 am to
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But tarrifs are helping America to gain back it's even standing.



How? Devaluing the dollar?

We are the number one per capita mfgr in the world. We dont need to gain back anything.


What we need to do is teach people who can only work assembly lines how to manage the modern economy instead of this constant wealth redistribution Trump is doing.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9870 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:11 am to
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I'm pretty disappointed in Rand


Why he is the new John McCain "Maverick" and will do more to stop a republican POTUS than a democrat POTUS.


Because he has raging TDS.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9870 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:13 am to
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One of the few? He voted with every democrat.


But then in Roger's next breath he'll accuse Trump and Trump supporters of being progressive Democrats... While worshiping the "real conservatives" in Congres... who routinely vote with Democrats. Make it all make sense!
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9870 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:14 am to
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quote:

Are you finally admitting you are a democrat?


I dont support owning the means of production like you, so no.


But you support voting with Democrats... Got it.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9870 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:18 am to
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You know how I know Rand is an idiot?!



Because youre a Progressive.


You're the one celebrating Republicans voting with Democrats, not us, pal. Take a look in the mirror. A long hard look.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:20 am to
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But you support voting with Democrats.


If it means breaking up MAGAs desire for collective control of the economy, I'll vote with anyone.

What a world where Dems are less communist than MAGA.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:20 am to
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You're the one celebrating Republicans voting with Democrats




You should be ashamed those Democrats have more economic knowledge than you.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10336 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:22 am to
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You mean big corporations, its the small business that will be hurt.


False
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9870 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:23 am to
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Youre such a simple person.


Projection.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:23 am to
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You mean big corporations, its the small business that will be hurt.


False


Who can withstand the trade war better, Big corporations or small business?

Who does tariffs benefit more, small business or Big Corporations?

What is economies of scale?

Not hard at all, you should be able to knock that out in less than a minute.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
74457 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 4:42 pm to
Where is the sweet spot. I understand a weak dollar lowers buy ability for the US and a very strong dollar makes our goods more expensive to sell overseas. And different policies can make each worse or better. Where does the green valley lay between the extremes?
Can currency speculation cause problems either way and is it a good thing overall?
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53910 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 4:50 pm to
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Rand is a globalist who won't acknowledge the damage the absolute lie of "free trade" have wreaked on this country for decades... or the dirty tricks played by most of the nations we compete against that we just absorb for a positive stock ticker.


And that's the problem, it's not free trade between the US and most other nations. Trump is using US tariffs on imports from other nations as leverage to rework trade deals so there is some semblance of free trade after the reworked trade agreements are finalized.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19220 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 4:55 pm to
And yet not a single vote on cutting USAID money being wasted.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 4:57 pm to
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Can currency speculation cause problems either way and is it a good thing overall?



If you want to sacrifice your purchasing power for "fair trade" then it might be a good thing. Ironically it also risks causing higher prices, which would be a double whammy for people in the wage economy.

Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 4:59 pm to
Rand is calling it as he sees it. I give him that.

Not like all of the Beta boys scared to speak

Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:03 pm to
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One of the few standing up for the American consumer (you)


Roger, considering everything Trump has done for the American people, do you really think Trump is trying to hurt the American people?

Do you think that he and Bessent may have more insight and purpose to what they are doing with things going on behind the scenes than we do?

Why do you want to buy more goods from a communist run country? Don’t we already have enough of that with China?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297609 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Roger, considering everything Trump has done for the American people, do you really think Trump is trying to hurt the American people?


trump judges whether things are good or bad by the reaction. I dont think he purposely wants to hurt people, but he's willing to if it keeps his core base happy.

Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23055 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:15 pm to
Trump can’t veto it


Posted by PurpleCrush
ATL
Member since May 2014
1479 posts
Posted on 10/29/25 at 5:17 pm to
Yes, he IS definitely trying to hurt certain American people, as he has proclaimed.

Yes, they use that insight for personal gain.

Congress SHOULD be managing tarrifs, not Don
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 5:56 pm
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