re: US Looks To Korean Peninsula As Possible Strategy For Ukraine

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Right now the area they control produced over 80% of Ukraine's GDP.

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Absolutely wrong.

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To top it off the entire thing could've easily been avoided.

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Putin admires your susceptibility to shitty propaganda. You have the thought process of a geriatric Russian longing for the return of the Soviet Union. .

They know the American people only have so much patience.

Time is running out and there is an election in 2024.

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Moscow called NATO’s expansion in Europe and its creeping takeover of Ukraine without its formal accession as one of the key reasons for sending troops against its neighbor. The conflict, Russia has maintained, is part of a US proxy war against it, in which Ukrainians serve as cannon fodder.

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No shite!

Mark it down. There will be no "Korean" settlement without NATO Concessions to not incorporate Ukraine (and Georgia by proxy).

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- An active hot war is a lot less costly, in just about every metric, than no war.

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Read again my bitch. Over an extended timescale, its going to be more expensive. The US spent $360 billion on the Korean War in today's dollars. It would take me some time to find, but given current spending figures, the amount the US spent in the region has exceeded the original amount. And just purely in geopolitical terms, the NATO allies are going to have to spend equivalent to Russia because that is the nature of geopolitics. There's a term for it, possibly coined by Mearsheimer himself, that describes this situation. Obviously that reference went way above your head.

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- Europe is not facing any energy crisis and the future is bright.

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You said that Germany and Italy were facing economic hardships, but the predicted GDP growth for both are mostly in line with their growth totals from before the pandemic. Are you just going to invent an argument that I didn't make to avoid discussing the veracity of your own claims?

And I'm saying that any predicted energy crisis is obviously not priced into oil and gas futures, given their trendline. I'm not lying about that trendline, as you can look for yourself. Instead of making up an argument that I didn't make, you could try to include that information into whatever framework you are using and move on from there. Instead, you appear unable to discuss anything at more than a toddler's level. Nicely done.

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- Europe is not facing any economic hardship, especially from anything to do with Russia.

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Lol, you really need to diversify your sources. I know that you are limited because of you want your 'perfect 4' foreign wife or whatever to continue giving you pitiful handjobs, but you can do it.

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Nope, they all died in the winter. Just like we were told would happen last year. Or were the people who said that… wrong? *GASP*

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This is an emotional embellishment response by you. I don’t believe people said they would all die in the winter.

Europe benefited from a mild winter which helped mitigate the effects. There was also a reduction in demand due to a weak economy. These are not factors you can or want to rely upon for economic and energy policies for obvious reasons. This is widely available in a variety of sources, such as Al Jazeera, NYT, CNN, etc.

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I don’t believe people said they would all die in the winter.

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Then you either dont actually pay attention or have selective memory.

Kind of like how people in this very thread are suddenly acting like Russia wasnt trying to take all of Ukraine at the start of this thing.

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A permanent state of conflict wouldn’t be as costly?

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Depends on motivation. Biden is crooked as Ben Harrison, Warren Harding or Nixon. The only breaker is his dementia. Given moments of lucidity, he might be willing to throw $1T at Ukraine to shut up Ukrainian critics. The "Korean" example hints at an attempt at international agreement rather than something approved by Congress. IMO, Constitutional levers will impact those plans.

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Depends on motivation. Biden is crooked as Ben Harrison, Warren Harding or Nixon. The only breaker is his dementia. Given moments of lucidity, he might be willing to throw $1T at Ukraine to shut up Ukrainian critics. The "Korean" example hints at an attempt at international agreement rather than something approved by Congress. IMO, Constitutional levers will impact those plans.

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It took us more than a decade to reach 1 trillion in spending on Iraq and Afghanistan, two conflicts we were directly involved in. I'm skeptical spending towards Ukraine directly, not just the accounting methods used to give figures for equipment we are giving them, is going to reach that total.

The reality is that the area will be a flashpoint for a long time, which doesn't portend decreased spending by any of the actors involved.

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Over an extended timescale, its going to be more expensive.

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This depends upon a lot of unknown factors, such as length, costs, levels of support, etc, that you seem to set your own predictions and values upon and take them as real. And you seem to wholly discount other cost factors, such as human lives.

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And I'm saying that any predicted energy crisis is obviously not priced into oil and gas futures

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Thank you, that’s all I needed for clarification.

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you really need to diversify your sources.

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I read from a wide variety of sources, even ones I don’t particularly care for.

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Read again my bitch.

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Obviously that reference went way above your head.

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you appear unable to discuss anything at more than a toddler's level. Nicely done.

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Lol

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I know that you are limited because of you want your 'perfect 4' foreign wife or whatever to continue giving you pitiful handjobs, but you can do it.

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You’re extra petulant today. Your posts used to be quality, even though I had different opinions, but I enjoyed the exchange of views. Lately, however, you seem to have dropped a level. Maybe take a break from this place. It seems to be negatively affecting you.