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re: U.S. launches military action in Syria

Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:13 am to
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:13 am to
No

Likely means Tillerson tells Putin they just screwed the pooch when it comes to advanced warning.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:23 am to
I find it very odd that these terrible images of the babies in Syria helped moved him to strike, even going so far as to say, "no child of God has to suffer that", yet he's been trying to ban them from coming here to be saved from these kinds of attacks.

Just stay the frick out already
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 8:26 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:40 am to
Can't have compassion for those you'd rather not live with?

(jus saying civil rights wouldn't have gotten off the ground -and- middle east peace why bother)
Posted by Yak
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:46 am to
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Can't have compassion for those you'd rather not live with?
You can, absolutely. The odd part of it for me is the use of military action based off of compassion and imagery, especially when it's the people you don't want here.
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:47 am to
" There doesn't seem to be any proof that Assad was responsible"

It boggled my mind as to why Assad would do this since he is winning.

But, numerous reports appear to show the launch of planes, the flight paths at the time of the gassing, and return to base.

The only explaination that makes ANY sense to me, is that the attacks were made by Assad's own forces in an attempt to bring him down. A coup of sorts.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 8:49 am
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:53 am to
true

Maybe if this hastens the end of hostilities there'll be less migration of the herds?
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:57 am to
quote:

" There doesn't seem to be any proof that Assad was responsible"

It boggled my mind as to why Assad would do this since he is winning.

But, numerous reports appear to show the launch of planes, the flight paths at the time of the gassing, and return to base.



so...

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There doesn't seem to be any proof that Assad was responsible"



Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24856 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:08 am to
I was responding to the quote of another poster.


If you are saying that in my scenario that Assad was not responsible, I would agree. The evidence leads back to his base, but may not lead to Assad giving the orders.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 9:11 am
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:49 am to
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Burhead


You know what you speak.
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:53 am to
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This is bad. Syria could attack us


How in your weak mind did this seem like a logical thought?
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:57 am to
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I find it very odd that these terrible images of the babies in Syria helped moved him to strike, even going so far as to say, "no child of God has to suffer that", yet he's been trying to ban them from coming here to be saved from these kinds of attacks.


Welllll it is Syrian state-run media distributing those photos so color me skeptical. It very well may have happened, but did they also report on the sarin attack? No.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:09 am to
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I find it very odd that these terrible images of the babies in Syria helped moved him to strike, even going so far as to say, "no child of God has to suffer that", yet he's been trying to ban them from coming here to be saved from these kinds of attacks.



1. Attacking your own civilians with WMDs changes the situation.

2. This was more about sending a message to Russia and China to get their "crazy allies" under control. Both Russia and China respect strength & we have to rebuild our rep after Obama made us look weaker than a snowflake on 1/21/17

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Just stay the frick out already




Did I miss the US invasion of Syria?
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:18 am to
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1. Attacking your own civilians with WMDs changes the situation.
It definitely changes the situation, but I'd rather not be within 1000 miles of possibly creating another Iraq situation.

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Did I miss the US invasion of Syria?
Well, we have soldiers there now, and we threw missiles over there last night
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:26 am to
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It definitely changes the situation, but I'd rather not be within 1000 miles of possibly creating another Iraq situation.




This is nowhere near creating another Iraq situation. I really f**king hate agreeing with John McCain, but he is right this is correct response just like when Pres Reagan attacked Libya in the 80s.

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Well, we have soldiers there now,


To protect our special forces and other assets that make sure our multi-million supertoys (F-22s, etc) actually hit their target.

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we threw missiles over there last night


Flexing our muscle while staying a safe distance away, only an idiot would have a problem with that.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:32 am to
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This is nowhere near creating another Iraq situation. I really f**king hate agreeing with John McCain, but he is right this is correct response just like when Pres Reagan attacked Libya in the 80s.
yeah, I don't agree with McCain. We don't need to be world police.
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To protect our special forces and other assets that make sure our multi-million supertoys (F-22s, etc) actually hit their target.
We don't need to be there, period.
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Flexing our muscle while staying a safe distance away, only an idiot would have a problem with that.
I have a problem with flexing our muscle in a country that does not pose any threat whatsoever to the USA. You can call me an idiot for that, I suppose.

Agree to disagree here
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:51 am to
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This is nowhere near creating another Iraq situation. I really f**king hate agreeing with John McCain, but he is right this is correct response just like when Pres Reagan attacked Libya in the 80s.
yeah, I don't agree with McCain. We don't need to be world police.



Last night's actions =/= being the world police

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We don't need to be there, period.



ISIS declared war on us; so we do need to be there to destroy them.

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I have a problem with flexing our muscle in a country that does not pose any threat whatsoever to the USA.


This attack was not about Syria's threat to the USA. This attack was to tell Assad, Putin, and Xi (China's president) that Pres Trump is not Pres Obama, and we will reinforce our red lines. Which is very important because Russia will never attempt a move on the Baltics while there is a POTUS with a backbone in the White House, and we need China to get onboard to get North Korea under control.

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You can call me an idiot for that, I suppose.


It's the internet, put your big girl thong on or go home.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:06 am to
I have no clue while Obama didn't do this. We can touch buttons in underground facilities you have never heard of in thr Southwest make cities vanish. It would be prudent to remind Putin of this
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:07 am to
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Did I miss the US invasion of Syria?


We have Americans in Syria and Syrian airspace.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17123 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:08 am to
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A man with no military credentials whatever launching a war to end all wars?


Who the frick is saying this is the war to end all wars?

This was done to send a message and was punishment for using chemical weapons.

If Trump had wanted to get involved bigly he would have sent the B1's and B2's. If that happens the vast majority of Assads military would be gone in less than a week. But he didnt do that. Trump just scolded a toddler who was misbehaving.

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:08 am to
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I have no clue while Obama didn't do this.


Obama was a sissy

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