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re: US government and media lying about Ukrainian counteroffensive
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:04 am to trinidadtiger
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:04 am to trinidadtiger
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Government is failing us but it has nothing to do with Ukraine.
You are a simpleton.
You look at everything as if it’s a result if the Ukraine War when reality is the border problem and illegals have plagued us now for 16 years.
Trump made an attempt to fix things, but Biden and the Dems did everything they could to oppose him and then undo the changed he made.
If we cut off Ukraine today not one penny more would go to sealing the borders. Not one penny would go to stopping the Fentanyl epidemic. Not one penny would go to healthcare.
You can oppose Ukraine spending, but your argument for doing so is FOS.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:39 am to TBoy
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But be aware that this is a Russian propaganda piece
TBoy didn't learn anything from the Hunter Biden laptop story.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:40 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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US government and media lying
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:42 am to doubleb
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You can oppose Ukraine spending, but your argument for doing so is FOS.
And your argument for constant funding for your BF is also FOS
Posted on 9/25/23 at 9:08 am to SDVTiger
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And your argument for constant funding for your BF is also FOS
At least I know not to blame Biden’s screw ups on the border on Ukraine.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 9:14 am
Posted on 9/25/23 at 1:01 pm to TBoy
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I also note this cites Hersh. He’s unfiltered Russian propaganda these days.
Believe what you want to believe. You will do that anyway. But be aware that this is a Russian propaganda piece.
Sheesh! And the Lefties call US the conspiracy theorists!
Posted on 9/25/23 at 8:39 pm to doubleb
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You can oppose Ukraine spending, but your argument for doing so is FOS.
You are the one FOS.
Everything we have been told about this war in the hinterlands of Eastern Europe by our national security apparatus and indeed NATO’s mission in Europe since the end of the Cold War has been predicated upon one lie stacked upon another.
“The United States is placing its occupation troops in one country after another. This is the de facto situation in Bosnia for 9 years, in Kosovo and Afghanistan for 5 years each, in Iraq for 3 years so far, but it will be a long time there. There is little difference between NATO’s actions and individual U.S. actions. Clearly seeing that today’s Russia poses no threat to them, NATO is methodically and persistently developing its military apparatus — to the east of Europe and into the continental reach of Russia from the south. There is open material and ideological support for ‘color’ revolutions, and the paradoxical introduction of North Atlantic interests — in Central Asia. All this leaves no doubt that a complete encirclement of Russia is being prepared, and then the loss of its sovereignty.” Alexander Solzhenitsyn: April 28, 2006.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:26 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
quote:they just took another 2 villages in the the tokmak axis toward melitopol, confirmed by video. I think it's funny how Russia shills want to make it seem like Ukraine is making no progress in it's counter offensive when they are going like 5x as quick as Russia did trying to assault Bakmut. The whole country is mined up now, there is no such thing as a quick offensive move in Ukraine anymore
S government and media lying about Ukrainian counteroffensive
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:50 pm to TBoy
quote:Low-T boy can't fathom his transtranee thexthy boi Zallensky being defeated by Putler
this is a Russian propaganda piece.

Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:52 pm to narddogg81
Show your work, tough guy.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:05 am to narddogg81
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I think it's funny how Russia shills want to make it seem like Ukraine is making no progress in it's counter offensive when they are going like 5x as quick as Russia did trying to assault Bakmut.
The Ukrainian plan called for a rapid breakthrough. They were supposed to push to the sea to cut the Russian MSR. It was supposed to take days. That didn’t work.
Instead they’re fighting a war of of attrition against the Russians, and that’s a problem, because they will run out of everything, from men to material, well before the Russians do.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:14 am to Lima Whiskey
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Instead they’re fighting a war of of attrition against the Russians, and that’s a problem, because they will run out of everything, from men to material, well before the Russians do.
If they were invading Russia it would be a problem, but they aren't. Even Russia has limits on acceptable casualties (see Afghanistan). At this point most estimate that Russia has lost in less than 1.6 years over 3x the amount they lost in Afghanistan over 10 years.
While Russia has great media control and has been careful to conscript mostly from the outer regions, eventually people start noticing groups of men are missing.
How long before they get to that point and what state will the war be in nobody knows, but it's been pretty clear for the last 6 months that Russia had struggled significantly more than Ukraine to conduct offensive operations. You don't win wars by sitting in your foxhole and getting picked off by drones.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 12:17 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Ain’t over until they arrest the midget and rub it in Biden’s face.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 1:05 am to tango029
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While Russia has great media control and has been careful to conscript mostly from the outer regions, eventually people start noticing groups of men are missing.
They’re reservists and volunteers. They can’t send conscripts to Ukraine per the constitution. The volunteers do come disproportionately from the republics, but that is probably cultural, these are more traditional and violent places, and it’s to some degree an economic issue. These are very poor places.
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While Russia has great media control
They couldn’t hide mass casualties. There’s no way to with modern media technology.
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At this point most estimate that Russia has lost in less than 1.6 years over 3x the amount they lost in Afghanistan over 10 years.
The Soviets didn’t withdraw because they took too many casualties.
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You don't win wars by sitting in your foxhole and getting picked off by drones.
Defense is the stronger form of warfare. It’s operationally advantageous to let the Ukrainians attack. They’ll suffer heavier casualties attacking than they would defending, it’s much more expensive for them. The Russians will have to attack eventually but what they’re doing is logical.
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but it's been pretty clear for the last 6 months that Russia had struggled significantly more than Ukraine to conduct offensive operations
The Russians made a choice to conserve manpower.
Posted on 9/26/23 at 2:22 am to doubleb
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reality is the border problem and illegals have plagued us now for 16 years.
You could double that number and still be way off on the math.
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