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re: US authorities arrest Palestinian student protester at Columbia University

Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:51 pm to
I Don't have a problem with peaceful protest but when you're using your protest to threaten other students and have them fearing to even go to class you've crossed that line.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:54 pm to
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He and his people terrorized Jewish students.


And just like that, leftists suddenly stopped supporting 'hate crimes'.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14424 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:54 pm to
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I assume he will be deported.
Yep! If you are a guest in this, or any other country, it's best to mind your own business and stay out of host country's politics
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26353 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:56 pm to
It is called a foreigner supporting a terrorist organization. The administration said they would be deported. If this is the same guy that was reported on earlier he broke a law during the protest. Possibly violence or something I don't remember.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41580 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:57 pm to
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We will think up charge and deport him. Exactly.


Tired of fricking with these people man
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25254 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 6:59 pm to
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On what charges?


Violating the civil and constitutional rights of Jewish students. Taking over campus buildings illegally.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:02 pm to
Ok, I just read through the thread and did some other reading on this. This shite's not going anywhere. This guy will be back on campus in no time.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15172 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:04 pm to
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This shite's not going anywhere. This guy will be back on campus in


I would say getting arrested by ICE and carted off where he can't be found is going somewhere.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44949 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:04 pm to
Apparently, they may have sent him to Louisiana

Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15172 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:10 pm to
They should fly him to Israel and let him fight his court case from there


Hope they are feeding him pork in jail
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 7:12 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41580 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:11 pm to
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I would say getting arrested by ICE and carted off where he can't be found is going somewhere.


Just hand him over to the Israelis
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:13 pm to
Looked for some additional information here. It appears a bit heavy handed, but it also appears to be technically correct, assuming he did in fact express support for Hamas (see quote below). The problem here is that it looks completely one sided in order to protect Israel, which is going to hurt in terms of PR. That said, a lot of these schools appear to be siding with pro-Palestinian groups over pro-Israeli groups and that is definitely going to get them in hot water with the feds. If Trump can make that showing, he is firmly entitled to pull funds. If they are merely doing things due to anti-semitism, though, that will be protected speech. It might be disgusting, but you can hate other groups. That is protected.

Greer said she spoke by phone with one of the ICE agents during the arrest, who said they were acting on State Department orders to revoke Khalil's student visa. Informed by the attorney that Khalil was in the United States as a permanent resident with a green card, the agent said they were revoking that too, according to the lawyer.

When ICE agents arrived at the campus building Saturday, they also threatened to arrest Khalil's wife, an American citizen who is eight months pregnant, Greer said. The authorities declined to say why Khalil was being arrested, according to the attorney.

The were initially told he was transferred to an immigration detention facility in Elizabeth, New Jersey. But when his wife tried to visit Sunday, she learned he not there - and may have been transferred as far away as Louisiana, Greer said.

In a message shared on X Sunday evening, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the administration "will be revoking the visas and/or green cards of Hamas supporters in America so they can be deported."

The Department of Homeland Security can initiate deportation proceedings against green card holders for a broad range alleged criminal activity, including supporting a terror group. It would ultimately be up to an immigration judge to revoke someone's permanent resident status, according to Camille Mackler, founder of Immigrant ARC, a coalition of legal service providers in New York.

The investigations come as the Trump administration has followed through on its threat to cut hundreds of millions of dollars in funding to Columbia because of what the government describes as the Ivy League school's failure to squelch antisemitism on campus.

Local ABC coverage
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:18 pm to
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quote:

On what charges?
Violating the civil and constitutional rights of Jewish students.
Great Ghu.

Only a governmental entity can violate Constitutional rights under the Bill of Rights, because the Bill of Rights only limits the actions of the federal government (and state governments, if you accept the BS incorporation doctrine).
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:19 pm to
You can't express support for Hamas? Is just saying that a crime?!
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:23 pm to
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POTUS2024
Nice foot/ground work.

I find it difficult to believe that the feds can revoke either a visa OR permanent residency (aka green card) based only upon an ALLEGATION of criminal activity. It is almost inconceivable that they can undertake such an action without adjudication of the underlying criminal allegation.

"My cousin Edna told me that her sister Myrtle told her that their Aunt Sissy heard Khalil say Death to America." Trump: Khalil, you are outa here!!!!

We will see, as this thing develops. I doubt that Khalil will be the last of these that we see.
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 7:26 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15172 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:23 pm to
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You can't express support for Hamas? Is just saying that a crime?!


Sounds good to me. Anyone that supports a group that wants America or it's allies dead should be thrown out immediately.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
66986 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:24 pm to
Good to see you care about the First Amendment.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:25 pm to
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Looked for some additional information here. It appears a bit heavy handed, but it also appears to be technically correct, assuming he did in fact express support for Hamas (see quote below). The problem here is that it looks completely one sided in order to protect Israel, which is going to hurt in terms of PR. That said, a lot of these schools appear to be siding with pro-Palestinian groups over pro-Israeli groups and that is definitely going to get them in hot water with the feds. If Trump can make that showing, he is firmly entitled to pull funds. If they are merely doing things due to anti-semitism, though, that will be protected speech. It might be disgusting, but you can hate other groups. That is protected.

Greer said she spoke by phone with one of the ICE agents during the arrest, who said they were acting on State Department orders to revoke Khalil's student visa. Informed by the attorney that Khalil was in the United States as a permanent resident with a green card, the agent said they were revoking that too, according to the lawyer.

When ICE agents arrived at the campus building Saturday, they also threatened to arrest Khalil's wife, an American citizen who is eight months pregnant, Greer said. The authorities declined to say why Khalil was being arrested, according to the attorney.

The were initially told he was transferred to an immigration detention facility in Elizabeth, New Jersey. But when his wife tried to visit Sunday, she learned he not there - and may have been transferred as far away as Louisiana, Greer said.

In a message shared on X Sunday evening, Secretary of State Marco Rubio said the administration "will be revoking the visas and/or green cards of Hamas supporters in America so they can be deported."

The Department of Homeland Security can initiate deportation proceedings against green card holders for a broad range alleged criminal activity, including supporting a terror group. It would ultimately be up to an immigration judge to revoke someone's permanent resident status, according to Camille Mackler, founder of Immigrant ARC, a coalition of legal service providers in New York.

The investigations come as the Trump administration has followed through on its threat to cut hundreds of millions of dollars in funding to Columbia because of what the government describes as the Ivy League school's failure to squelch antisemitism on campus.


To the emboldened part. I can’t find any reference at all where he showed support for Hamas, maybe he did but I can't find it. His protests have been "pro-Palestenian" and anti-Isreal. Palestinians are not a designated terrorist group and being Anti-Israel (on its face) does not equal antisemitism.

Additionally, he never took over a building. He had no part in that. He mediated between school administration and the student group.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10780 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:26 pm to
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Only a governmental entity can violate Constitutional rights under the Bill of Rights, because the Bill of Rights only limits the actions of the federal government (and state governments, if you accept the BS incorporation doctrine).


So if my private business discriminates illegally against a member of a protected class, I haven't legally violated someone's civil rights?

What if I conspire to intimidate someone to keep them from voting?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10780 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 7:27 pm to
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I find it difficult to believe that the feds can revoke either a visa OR permanent residency (aka green card) based only upon an ALLEGATION of criminal activity.


The article I read said he was being detained, ostensibly pending the investigation.
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