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Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:57 pm to HempHead
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@l0gg0l
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TRUMP SAID TO MAKE STATEMENT ON SYRIA LATER THIS EVENING -- BBC
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:57 pm to HempHead
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Do they exercise any practical sovereignty? Legitimate question.
The SDF isn't a nation. It's a coalition of military tribes. They have a voice in the future of Syria.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:59 pm to rmnldr
So, they don't have any practical sovereignty, and they only have a voice when allowed by those who do. Now, if you were to tell me that they have legitimate and irrefutable rule over some territory, I might think differently.
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:59 pm to rmnldr
@BBCJonSopel
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Am hearing statement coming from @realDonaldTrump later this evening #SyriaCrisis
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:00 pm to Iowa Golfer
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Ever been shot at before?
I actually have, but that just kinda goes hand in hand with living in Louisiana. It's like reconciliation at church, everyone does it at least once and some much more often
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:02 pm to HempHead
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So, they don't have any practical sovereignty, and they only have a voice when allowed by those who do. Now, if you were to tell me that they have legitimate and irrefutable rule over some territory, I might think differently.
Well I know for a fact that the YPG and YPJ will not disarm. Other tribes within the SDF have their own agendas and preferences.
What your opinion is of legitimate and irrefutable rule over a territory is what I'm wondering.
No one is going to attack into SDF/YPG territory except ISIS. They're being propped up by the US and her allies just like the SAA is propped up by Iran and Russia.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:04 pm to rmnldr
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What your opinion is of legitimate and irrefutable rule over a territory is what I'm wondering.
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No one is going to attack into SDF/YPG territory
That, pretty much. Sovereignty means that no one else can tell their leaders how to act. Now, if they defer to the United States in terms of governance, then I would not say they are sovereign; they are clients.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:09 pm to AU86
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:09 pm to rmnldr
From 2013, when ISIS was created, until Trump became president and took ISIS seriously we were not a force that was helpful in the destruction of ISIS. To think the mightiest military this world has ever seen could not have wiped out ISIS easily is ridiculous. Russia and the US air forces decimated ISIS once they wanted to. What I would like you to comment on is why we allow them to still function at all in the eastern Syrian desert? We should bomb them off the face of the earth until there is no trace. I believe both US and Russia allow them to survive to a certain degree at this point to justify their continued mission in Syria.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:12 pm to HempHead
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That, pretty much. Sovereignty means that no one else can tell their leaders how to act. Now, if they defer to the United States in terms of governance, then I would not say they are sovereign; they are clients.
By your definition, the Assad regime is a client state to Russia and to a lesser extent, Iran and Hezbollah.
Both sides are proxies in reality.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:12 pm to rmnldr
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So the SDF isn't Syrian?
They have just as much a voice as Assad does in the future of Syria.
Sure but the SDF doesn’t have planes, America does. America was the one threatening to bomb them if SAA tried to attack ISIS
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:17 pm to feverish
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From 2013, when ISIS was created, until Trump became president and took ISIS seriously we were not a force that was helpful in the destruction of ISIS.
I hate you be harsh but you're lying. The US has been hitting ISIS the hardest since Kobani. No one has matched the sheer amount of ordnance and precision that the US has delivered onto ISIS, starting before Trump was even considered a candidate for 2016.
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To think the mightiest military this world has ever seen could not have wiped out ISIS easily is ridiculous.
ISIS was on the brink of destruction before Trump ever got into office.
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Russia and the US air forces decimated ISIS once they wanted to.
Russia has done very little to hit ISIS. Their presence has been mostly symbolic vs ISIS. They are there to prop up Assad.
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What I would like you to comment on is why we allow them to still function at all in the eastern Syrian desert?
Are we allowing it? The YPG/YPJ has been tied up in Afrin. We are still hitting them nearly every day from the air.
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We should bomb them off the face of the earth until there is no trace.
We are:
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On April 6 in Syria, Coalition military forces conducted four strikes consisting of five engagements against Daesh targets.
- Near Al Shadaddi, four strikes engaged one Daesh tactical unit and destroyed two Daesh vehicles.
On April 6 in Iraq, Coalition military forces conducted one strike consisting of 16 engagements against Daesh targets.
- Near Tuz, one strikes engaged one Daesh tactical unit, destroyed 11 Daesh bunkers, two Daesh fighting positions, two Daesh-held buildings, two Daesh vehicles, four Daesh caves and two Daesh tunnels.
On April 7 in Syria, Coalition military forces conducted one strike consisting of three engagements against Daesh targets.
- Near Abu Kamal, one strike engaged one Daesh tactical unit, destroyed one Daesh vehicle and one Daesh fighting position.
There were no reported strikes conducted in Iraq on April 7, 2018.
There were no reported strikes conducted in Syria on April 8, 2018.
On April 8 in Iraq, Coalition military forces conducted two strikes consisting of three engagements against Daesh targets.
- Near Rutbah, two strikes destroyed one Daesh-held building and six Daesh fighting positions.
On April 9 in Syria, Coalition military forces conducted three strikes consisting of three engagements against Daesh targets.
- Near Dashisha, two strike engaged one Daesh tactical unit and destroyed two Daesh vehicles and one Daesh logistics hub.
- Near Al Shadaddi, one strike engaged one Daesh tactical unit and destroyed one Daesh logistics hub.
There were no reported strikes conducted in Iraq on April 9, 2018.
There were no reported strikes conducted in Syria on April 10, 2018.
There were no reported strikes conducted in Iraq on April 10, 2018.
On April 11 in Syria, Coalition military forces conducted one strike consisting of three engagements against Daesh targets.
- Near Abu Kamal, one strike destroyed three Daesh IEDs.
On April 11 in Iraq, Coalition military forces conducted one strike consisting of one engagement against Daesh targets.
- One strike conducted near Al Qaim
On April 12 in Syria, Coalition military forces conducted one strike consisting of six engagements against Daesh targets.
- Near Abu Kamal, one strike damaged one Daesh-held building.
On April 12 in Iraq, Coalition military forces conducted one strike consisting of one engagement against Daesh targets.
- One strike conducted near Al Qaim.
Between March 18 and April 5, Coalition military forces conducted 11 strikes consisting of 16 engagements in Syria that were not reported in previous releases:
One strike consisting of one engagement conducted in Syria against Daesh targets on March 18 near Al Shadaddi, engaged one Daesh tactical unit and destroyed one Daesh vehicle.
One strike consisting of one engagement conducted in Syria against Daesh targets on March 22 near Abu Kamal, engaged one Daesh tactical unit and destroyed one Daesh headquarters.
One strike consisting of one engagement conducted in Syria against Daesh targets on March 27 near Al Shadaddi, engaged one Daesh tactical unit and destroyed one Daesh vehicle.
One strike consisting of one engagement conducted in Syria against Daesh targets on March 27 near Abu Kamal, engaged one Daesh tactical unit and destroyed one Daesh headquarters.
One strike consisting of one engagement conducted in Syria against Daesh targets on March 31 near Abu Kamal, engaged one Daesh tactical unit.
Three strikes consisting of six engagements conducted in Syria against Daesh targets on April 3 near Al Shadaddi, engaged one Daesh tactical unit and destroyed one logistics hub and two Daesh vehicles.
One strike consisting of two engagements conducted in Syria against Daesh targets on April 3 near Abu Kamal, engaged one Daesh tactical unit and destroyed one Daesh logistics hub.
Two strikes consisting of three engagements conducted in Syria against Daesh targets on April 5 near Al Shadaddi, engaged one Daesh tactical unit and destroyed one Daesh logistics hub.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:18 pm to windshieldman
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Sure but the SDF doesn’t have planes, America does. America was the one threatening to bomb them if SAA tried to attack ISIS
SAA has attacked ISIS all over and the US hasn't stopped them. The spin you're putting on that is ridiculous. The US doesn't want the SAA near SDF because we have SOF embedded in them.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:19 pm to Toddy
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I'm excited ! I love shite like this !
The warmongering liberal gay guy! The left really has come full circle!
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:19 pm to rmnldr
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And you fail to mention how many ISIS targets the US destroyed surrounding Deir Ezzor that prevented ISIS from gaining superiority.
We were bombing desert areas, mostly countryside
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I'm sure you also won't mention how the US destroyed ISIS targets when they took Palmyra from the SAA which allowed the SAA to eventually take it back
Yea that was Russia, Russia is by far the major reasons Palmyra was retaken by SAA.
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Or how the US helped the SDF take Raqqa when the SAA could have never done it. (They attempted to in 2015 or 2016 and got embarrassed)
True, but we killed thousands of kids and women doing it. SDF to this day is committing torture and murders of unarmed civilians, burning houses, theft, etc in Raqqa.
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If the US wouldn't have gotten involved in Iraq and Syria ISIS would own over half of each country today.
If US wouldn’t have gotten involved there would be no Isis and 20 other Islamic groups. Yea, Iraq and Syria would be ruled by “brutal” dictators. There would be no dead American troops, wouldn’t have spent 100s of billions of $, killed 100s of thousands of civilians, and completely leveled entire cities, some of them, more than once.
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:21 pm to rmnldr
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SAA has attacked ISIS all over and the US hasn't stopped them. The spin you're putting on that is ridiculous. The US doesn't want the SAA near SDF because we have SOF embedded in them.
I’m not spinning anything, I’m saying what happened. Northern Syria is still Syria, it’s not called SDF. Syria military should have the right to attack ISIS wherever they want.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:21 pm to windshieldman
Hopeing for a peaceful resolution in Syria. Stay away
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:24 pm to windshieldman
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Yea that was Russia, Russia is by far the major reasons Palmyra was retaken by SAA.
No it wasn't. The US was striking Palmyra and the Palmyra airport.
Russia came in after the SAA already took it. The amount of ordnance they dropped on ISIS around Palmyra was minuscule.
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True, but we killed thousands of kids and children doing it. SDF to this day is committing torture and murders of unarmed civilians, burning houses, theft, etc in Raqqa.
And guess what? SAA and Russia has done the same the entire conflict. It's a war. shite happens.
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If US wouldn’t have gotten involved there would be no Isis and 20 other Islamic groups. Yea, Iraq and Syria would be ruled by “brutal” dictators. There would be no dead American troops, wouldn’t have spent 100s of billions of $, killed 100s of thousands of civilians, and completely leveled entire cities, some of them, more than once.
I don't disagree. The Iraq war was a mistake
Posted on 4/13/18 at 7:24 pm to tiger perry
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@W7VOA
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“I don’t believe it,” a senior @WhiteHouse official tells me of @BBCNews report that @POTUS is to make a major announcement tonight. “It’s a no.”
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