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Unless It Changes, Capitalism Will Starve Humanity By 2050
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:15 am
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:15 am
Freedom, TYFYS
corporations, man...it's the corporations
so what's the solution? Marxist socialism!
the irony of a marxist-socialist using hunger and starvation as a motivational tool to erode freedom (aka, capitalism) is hilarious
there are few things in life more ironic than watching the self-identifying empathetic and progressive crowd argue for the deaths of billions of people, both directly (by claims of overpopulation) and indirectly (by promoting a failed, totalitarian system that leads to starvation due to the limitations of market demands)
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Public corporations are responding to consumer demand and pressure from Wall Street. Professors Christopher Wright and Daniel Nyberg published Climate Change, Capitalism and Corporations last fall, arguing that businesses are locked in a cycle of exploiting the world’s resources in ever more creative ways.
“Our book shows how large corporations are able to continue engaging in increasingly environmentally exploitative behaviour by obscuring the link between endless economic growth and worsening environmental destruction,” they wrote.
corporations, man...it's the corporations
so what's the solution? Marxist socialism!
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This trend hearkens back to cooperatives where employees collectively owned the enterprise and participated in management decisions through their voting rights. Mondragon is the oft-cited example of a successful, modern worker cooperative. Mondragon’s broad-based employee ownership is not the same as an Employee Stock Ownership Plan. With ownership comes a say – control – over the business. Their workers elect management, and management is responsible to the employees.
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The hierarchical organization of modern corporations will give way to networks or communities that make collaboration paramount. Many options for more fluid, agile management structures could take hold.
For instance, newer companies are experimenting with alternative management models that seek to empower employees more than a traditional hierarchy typically does. Of these newer approaches, holacracy is the most widely known. It promises to bring structure and discipline to a peer-to-peer workplace.
the irony of a marxist-socialist using hunger and starvation as a motivational tool to erode freedom (aka, capitalism) is hilarious
there are few things in life more ironic than watching the self-identifying empathetic and progressive crowd argue for the deaths of billions of people, both directly (by claims of overpopulation) and indirectly (by promoting a failed, totalitarian system that leads to starvation due to the limitations of market demands)
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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there are few things in life more ironic than watching the self-identifying empathetic and progressive crowd argue for the deaths of billions of people, both directly (by claims of overpopulation) and indirectly (by promoting a failed, totalitarian system that leads to starvation due to the limitations of market demands)
Its truly amazing to debate these lunatics and provide hard facts and they still deny it
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
Jeff Bezos will save us.
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:19 am to SlowFlowPro
Uninformed people will buy it. I have had IRL conversations with teenagers like this:
Me: Where does food come from?
Them: The store.
Me: Where does the store get it?
Them: I dunno.
Me: Where does electricity come from?
Them: The electric company.
Me: Where do they get it?
Them: I dunno.
Me: Where does food come from?
Them: The store.
Me: Where does the store get it?
Them: I dunno.
Me: Where does electricity come from?
Them: The electric company.
Me: Where do they get it?
Them: I dunno.
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:19 am to SDVTiger
the Malthusian arguments show the totalitarian streaks of whomever utters them. in today's political paradigm, it's typically from the left
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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there are few things in life more ironic than watching the self-identifying empathetic and progressive crowd argue for the deaths of billions of people, both directly (by claims of overpopulation) and indirectly (by promoting a failed, totalitarian system that leads to starvation due to the limitations of market demands)
I enjoy watching their heads explode when you ask them simple questions such as
What would happen to me if I decided I make a better soup than the govt supplied canteen, so I start trading my soup for extra clothes or supplies?
Or my favorite, if you hate how prisons are run and say that they dehumanize the prisoner, why do you want to model the entire govt structure off of the prison system?
In prison you’re given everything you need. You’re given a job, free food, free shelter, free healthcare, free everything. You’re told when to sleep, when to rise, when to walk, when to talk. Everything is given to you from the all powerful state. Any and all interpersonal black market or trade system is not only frowned upon, but entirely crushed once found.
That is socialism. That is complete govt control. That is what you ask for. So why is it that the people who ask for these things are vehemently anti-prison?
Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:31 am to beerJeep
I asked ebbandbleed who would pay for universal healthcare and she couldn't form a real answer
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:32 am to SDVTiger
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asked ebbandbleed who would pay for universal healthcare and she couldn't form a real answer
Other people’s money you shite brained a-hole! Reeeeee!!!!
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:33 am to beerJeep
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Other people’s money you shite brained a-hole! Reeeeee!!!!
i think the answer was the wealthy
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:35 am to SDVTiger
THINK ANOUT THE CHILDREN DAMMIT
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:35 am to SlowFlowPro
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there are few things in life more ironic than watching the self-identifying empathetic and progressive crowd argue for the deaths of billions of people, both directly (by claims of overpopulation) and indirectly (by promoting a failed, totalitarian system that leads to starvation due to the limitations of market demands)
It is the ultimate, classical projection they always engage in. They argue against the economic "elite" because they want to replace them as the political elite.
Despite insurmountable evidence that capitalism is a rising tide that lifts all boats, that feeds billions that would go underfed, houses billions that would go unhoused, etc., they cling to this notion that because the smart/industrious/efficient/talented make more under this system (despite everyone doing better), that it must be evil due to this "unfairness" - they would much prefer a world where everyone (except them as the pure-hearted, elite, of course) is equally miserable, as long as no one did better than another.
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:37 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:It's as if they've never read a history book. Capitalism has done quite the opposite.
Capitalism Will Starve Humanity By 2050
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:39 am to Jake88
Capitalism it the best thing to happen to the human species. Bar. None.
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:39 am to beerJeep
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What would happen to me if I decided I make a better soup than the govt supplied canteen, so I start trading my soup for extra clothes or supplies?
you don't even have to do this
they're all in on the super peaceful, anarcho-communism shite these days. they argue they hate what has been called communism b/c it relies on a state and they will solve the problems by destroying the state and create a cooperative, collective society without such institutions of power (which are always ultimately perverted and used against marginalized groups)
just ask them what they'd do if you decided to leave their collective and form your own society with different rules next door
Posted on 9/1/18 at 9:43 am to Ace Midnight
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they cling to this notion that because the smart/industrious/efficient/talented make more under this system (despite everyone doing better), that it must be evil due to this "unfairness" - they would much prefer a world where everyone (except them as the pure-hearted, elite, of course) is equally miserable, as long as no one did better than another.
yeah it's so weird
what's really strange is that these ideas are SO urban, especially in particularly chosen coastal-urban areas that are seen as the best echo chambers to virtue signal, they will argue a "we don't need all this stuff", anti-materialism sermon to excuse teh devolution of society that will occur. they argue this while making intentional, material choices to surround themselves with the materialism that urban society provides and don't see the hypocrisy at all.
hell throw rent into that mix, too. these people are so utterly ignorant to simple supply and demand that they are having collective (pun intended) meltdowns over rent increasing due to THEIR creation of super demand in these cities.
Posted on 9/1/18 at 10:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Just because communism and socialism aren't a solution for the problems in our capitalist system doesn't automatically mean that there are no problems in our system. An unwillingness to address them only gives those who would promote communism and socialism an audience. Be warned.
Posted on 9/1/18 at 11:23 am to Boatshoes
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An unwillingness to address them only gives those who would promote communism and socialism an audience. Be warned.
There are other ways to "address them" without the leftist horse shite
Posted on 9/1/18 at 11:53 am to SDVTiger
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i think the answer was the wealthy
Just wait until everyone finds out who the wealthy is in their minds. I asked one Bernie supporter about those households making $150,000-$200,000/yr. They’re not the millionaires and billionaires that are always the target but would take a hit just the same as the rich people they attack.
Their answer was that $150,000 is 94% more than what the rest of America makes so stop pretending they’re average people.
My answer was fine, I won’t pretend that’s an average HH income, you stop pretending that your policies only target CEOs and hedge fund managers and not the husband and wife who work as a plant engineer and physical therapist.
Posted on 9/1/18 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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The hierarchical organization of modern corporations will give way to networks or communities that make collaboration paramount. Many options for more fluid, agile management structures could take hold.
For instance, newer companies are experimenting with alternative management models that seek to empower employees more than a traditional hierarchy typically does.
How can you effectively run a business without a manager? How can you efficiently streamline a business without a CEO?
The answer is you cannot. And these people know that. Like anyone else who has ever pushed communism or socialism as a valid form of government, they only do so with the belief that at the end of the day they will be on top and thus above the law and the problems these systems bring with them.
Posted on 9/1/18 at 11:57 am to SlowFlowPro
Al Gore enter stage left
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