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re: United Methodist Church Announces Plan to Split Over Same-Sex Marriage

Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:47 pm to
Posted by Turbeauxdog
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:47 pm to
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Now Methodist churches here


It’s called United Methodist
Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:48 pm to
It was mostly African and South American churches
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:48 pm to
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Yet everyone on here condemning gay marriage are not condemning divorce and remarriage.


Everyone?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:53 pm to
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I'm an atheist, so as you could guess I don't have an issue with homosexuality. But how dishonest do you have to be to pretend that Christianity is tolerant of it?

A pro-homosexual church is a bit like a chicken wing eating vegan.




There's a difference between no homosexuals allowed in positions of authority and no homosexuals allowed period.

Homosexuals are allowed inside churches, but they will not celebrate or promote homosexual behaviors.

Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:59 pm to
the split was mostly over performing same sex marriages. Most of the largest Methodist congregations in the US have told the World Organization to shove it and are performing same sex marriages
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:00 pm to
As a United Methodist why do the winners of the vote have to give up the "brand"?
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:02 pm to
I do not know a single Methodist who makes this distinction.

The Methodist Church joined the United Brethren (Both Wesleyan Methodists in doctrine) to become the UMC.

What is your point in making this distinction?
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 10:03 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:03 pm to
Think about it some more. You’ll get there
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:04 pm to
We haven't given up the brand.

Our church is in the process of peaceful expulsion of sodomite clergy.

This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 10:05 pm
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:05 pm to
I'm sorry, please explain
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:07 pm to
“And I say to you, whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”
-Matthew 19:9

quote:

Chiz - the Bible is pretty clear that you cannot divorce, and if you do you are committing adultery. Yet everyone on here condemning gay marriage are not condemning divorce and remarriage. According to the Bible, both are actively living in sin. You cannot have it both ways. All that said, I’m not a Biblical scholar, but I have read some on both sides of the issue.


Apparently you’ve read less than you think.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:12 pm to
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Ask Sodom and Gomorrah how that worked out.





Bigfoot told me it was not that bad, he and the Easter Bunny saw the whole thing while hanging out with the Lock Ness Monster.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:15 pm to
The LORD your GOD will ride a white horse.

His robes will be dipped in blood.

On that hem shall be written the name of the LORD.




Disregard at your leisure or your peril. Whatever it is worth to you.
Posted by Mr Reese
Member since Oct 2013
97 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:16 pm to
The New Testament condemns divorce except for adultery. Once one of the partners is with someone else, doesn’t the adultery exception then apply? Even if you divorce for other reasons, all you have done is sin. It can be forgiven. The Bible gives qualifications for church leaders and one of them is to be the husband of one wife. This is why people believe a leader can’t be divorced. But in those days multiple wives was the norm. Christianity was the first religion to say marriage was one wife, so the leaders could only have one. How can a leader with many wives tell you that you can only have one? The bottom line is the only unpardonable sin is the rejection of Christ. Too many in the church want to add divorce to that list.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:17 pm to
“ “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

1st Corinthians 6:9

Claiming the orientation sends you to hell as quickly as doing the deed, folks.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
2124 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:19 pm to
The Bible does not bend just because pop culture requests it to be so...


This is not the Talmud or the Koran, this is the WORD of GOD.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:24 pm to
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Yet everyone on here condemning gay marriage are not condemning divorce and remarriage.


is this some whataboutism to sanctify homosexuality.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:25 pm to
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is this some whataboutism to sanctify homosexuality


That’s precisely what it is.

Some of the people who didn’t pay enough attention in Sunday school should maybe start here and then grab a Bible.

LINK

Oh, and this is what it looks like when you take this issue seriously...

“The Russian Orthodox Church destroyed a chapel after local churchmen declared it defiled because it hosted a "marriage" ceremony for two men.

The Rev. Vladimir Enert was defrocked for conducting the service for Denis Gogolyev and Mikhail Morozev at the Chapel of the Vladimir Icon of the Mother of God in the city of Nizhny Novgorod, 280 miles east of Moscow, the London Telegraph reported.

The men said they paid Enert a $500 bribe to ignore the church's ban on same-sex marriages.

The Telegraph said a spokesman for the Orthodox Church indicated the chapel had to be demolished because it was desecrated.”

(Happened in 2003, but Orthodoxy stands firm against the sodomites).
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 10:44 pm
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
56807 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:30 pm to
Actually he does know what he is talking about. You can’t support being a queer and be a Christian.
Posted by adp
Member since Jul 2015
2735 posts
Posted on 1/3/20 at 10:32 pm to
I'm a pro gay, pro divorce, pro female reverends, pro doing shite on Sunday, pro alcohol, pro cussing.
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