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re: UK election exit polls are out

Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:22 am to
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:22 am to
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UKIP only has one seat currently but they were the third highest vote receiver in the last election. The U.K. is single member districts which is what the OP's post is predicting.


UKIP lost their seat and their voter share went down to below 2%.

And their leader got third in his election.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:42 am to
Meanwhile, Wales:



The Tories lost three of the seats they'd won back in 2015. Further, they got fricking blasted in Cardiff. Jo Stevens won by 17,000 votes in Cardiff Central. That's amazing. The largely Corbyn-less Welsh Labour campaign worked to perfection.

For Plaid, although they're going to be disappointed that they didn't make any headway into Tory territory, they've got to be happy that they've taken Ceredigion from the Lib Dems, sent UKIP down to the Greens, and made themselves the third largest party in Wales on the national stage. Wales could actually get some more devolved powers...
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 8:43 am
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:47 am to
It's funny how people have a tendency to blame those in power whenver something bad happens.

So terrorist attacks happen, people wanna blame May, so they vote for a party that is much, much weaker on security and borders? Makes no sense.

May has sucked on security and terrorism, but the other options suck much much worse.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:48 am to
The assumption that terrorist attacks always accrue to the benefit of the right-wing party is mistaken in this case since the conservatives have been in power for several years, and the fact that both the Manchester and London suspects were known to police and had been reported by other Muslims makes them more of a competence issue.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:49 am to
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Whats the deal with the ppl that don't take their seat in parliament?


Irish Separatists that view British rule over Northern Ireland as illegitimate. They run essentially as a protest. Then if they win seats the refuse to take them declaring Parliament illegitimate (also because apparently their is some sort of loyalty oath to the crown as part of the swearing in ceremony).

Essentially they're basically just protest candidates who happen to win a few seats.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:56 am to
The dementia tax debacle was May's downfall. Stop whinging about how 'cucked' the British are, although Trump attacking Khan this week probably didn't help the Tories much in London.

ETA:

It is hilarious that the DUP, which caused Stormont to fall back in January, is now the party that the Tories have to rely on to save themselves. This could be brilliant.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 8:58 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125441 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 8:58 am to
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It's funny how people have a tendency to blame those in power whenver something bad happens. So terrorist attacks happen, people wanna blame May, so they vote for a party that is much, much weaker on security and borders? Makes no sense. May has sucked on security and terrorism, but the other options suck much much worse.


It doesn't help that she cut police funding year after year.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:03 am to
Another UKIP loss. Their general secretary (a sitting MEP) has resigned citing their candidates' and campaigners' demonisation of Muslims during this campaign.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:05 am to
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It doesn't help that she cut police funding year after year.


Cutting police funding is bad for security.

Importing millions of Muslims is much worse.

They were so mad about A they voted for a party that supports B.

You wouldn't need an army of police patrolling the streets aggressively if you didn't have a bunch of terrorists running around int he first place.

Policing is treating the symptoms not the disease.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:08 am to
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Importing millions of Muslims is much worse.


This stupid talking point needs to die. The UK is not Germany or the Nordic countries. Virtually every Muslim in the UK was either born there or is from the Commonwealth.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125441 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:23 am to
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Importing millions of Muslims is much worse. They were so mad about A they voted for a party that supports B.


Yea you don't know what you are talking about

Most of the Muslims came to the UK when Thatcher was in power....
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:36 am to
I bet he thinks Brexit was about Islam.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125441 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:49 am to
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I bet he thinks Brexit was about Islam.


Most of this board is still convinced it was.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:53 am to
Brecht was about immigration and other sovereignty issues

And voting for a Chavez fan is a great strategy
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125441 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 9:58 am to
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Brecht was about immigration and other sovereignty issues


No one said it wasn't

The issue is this board can't come to grips about where the immigrants where coming from.
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