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re: Two Female Christian Artists Could Be JAILED For Not Creating Art For Same-Sex Weddings

Posted on 12/26/18 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/26/18 at 8:30 pm to
See you just don’t want to know. You stick your head in the ground and say “I don’t live in Colorado or Arizona” you don’t want to look up the extremely benign comments of Daniel Murphy that somehow made the news again when he got traded because it was disagreeing with homosexuality
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 9:15 pm to
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See you just don’t want to know.


That's correct. I don't care.

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I don’t live in Colorado or Arizona


Also correct.

Do you?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37808 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 10:32 pm to
So you come in this thread making claims as fact yet you obviously don’t know the information that goes 100% against what you are saying. Not surprising
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35333 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 10:36 pm to
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Funny though no Christian bakers / artists / pastors take any stance against people who divorce for non-biblical reasons and remarry.


You're saying the state should be able to dictate religious / faith-based priorities?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 10:39 pm to
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information that goes 100% against what you are saying


This is bullshite.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 12/26/18 at 10:42 pm to
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Two female Christian artists in Arizona who refuse to make custom-art for same sex weddings could actually be jailed for sticking to their religious beliefs.

Joanna Duka and Breanna Koski , who own Brush & Nib Studio, make custom artwork using painting, calligraphy and handlettering. They filed suit against the city of Phoenix, as a Phoenix city ordinance threatens them with up to six months and/or a fine of $2,500 each day they refuse to make the artwork. First the women filed in state court to overturn the ordinance, but lost in a court of appeals, prompting them to appeal to the state’s Supreme Court, which said on November 20 it would hear the case



Two groups of attention whores here trying to prove they are a victim,

Group A the artist should have said "sorry we are over booked"

Group B the customer should have said "thats fine I dont want to do business with you anyway"

But here we are giving both sets of losers the attention they crave.

Posted by Boy_of_wonder75
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2005
569 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:53 am to
This seems a pretty clear violation of the 1st Amendment. Art is most certainly a type of speech, therefore I don't see this going very far.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:42 am to
Married Couples Who Attend Church Services Together Are Less Likely to Divorce: Study

"Married couples who attend church services together are more likely to live longer, are less likely to be depressed, and less likely to get divorced, according to a new study conducted by a professor at the Harvard School of Public Health.

The study, titled "Religion and Health: A Synthesis," conducted by Tyler J. VanderWeele, professor of epidemiology at the Harvard School of Public Health, noted that religious service attendance is connected to "better health outcomes, including longer life, lower incidence of depression, and less suicide," the Institute for Family Studies noted on Tuesday...

...Married couples who attend religious services are 30 to 50 percent less likely to get divorced than those who do not, the study asserts. Such couples are also nearly 30 percent less likely to be depressed and, over a 16-year follow-up period, were shown to have significantly lower risk of dying."

LINK

So you see, people who actually worship Jesus do have a much lower rate of divorce than those who simply say they are Christian because of the color of their passport and never darken the door of a church.

Just to put to rest once and for all the Christians are hypocrites based on divorce rates argument.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 5:44 am
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77933 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:43 am to
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Not surprised. The left would love to purge all believers who dont toe the socialist line.



Yep. This was the goal the entire time. Anyone who bought the bullshite narrative that it was about love and freedom was a complete sucker. All of those idiots on Facebook who flooded my feed with rainbow shite still make me cringe.
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 5:44 am
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:02 am to
Do you believe in choice?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:04 am to
If/when the day comes people start putting Christians in jail for "offenses" like this (hopefully never), we have to start putting the bad guys in the dirt.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:07 am to
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No. They cannot be jailed. Stop sounding like a cuck


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a Phoenix city ordinance threatens them with up to six months and/or a fine of $2,500 each day they refuse to make the artwork


You sure about that Clark?
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:48 am to
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This is only correct for one.

Explain which one it is incorrect for, please.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:51 am to
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Explain which one it is incorrect for, please.


Armed robbery involves at least the implication of violence.

You're welcome.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:55 am to
Easy solution for these cases. Make the “art” work” and make it as awful as possible.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:58 am to
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Armed robbery involves at least the implication of violence.
So does government law.

You're welcome

ETA: I have now shown why the analogy is valid. Now that I have fulfilled my end of the bargain, it is your turn to present your argument for why remarrying is a sin.

Yours, not some link you find

Yours
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 8:05 am
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
23151 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 7:59 am to
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Funny though no Christian bakers / artists / pastors take any stance against people who divorce for non-biblical reasons and remarry.



Not so
I know many preachers who will not perform a wedding ceremony for divorced couples
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:11 am to
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So does government law.




Yep. Still a terrible analogy.

Is this the part where you claim to have an "advanced degree in government law."

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:23 am to
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Yep. Still a terrible analogy.

So you want to take the stance that government law is not enforced by the threat of force and violence?

Wow! That's a pretty radical stance to take, son.

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Is this the part where you claim to have an "advanced degree in government law."
You mean a law degree? No, but it is clear you do not have anything approaching that, either
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
84027 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 8:25 am to
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Because you don’t have a single example.
He doesn't have an argument.

All of his posts are essentially "nuh-uhhh"

Notice how he offers zero arguments. He thinks government laws aren't backed by force and violence, but he will not present an argument saying as much. . .because he is terrified of displaying how silly and ignorant he is.

Notice he won't even engage or justify anything he has posted when asked to explain. . .because he is terrified of giving someone something substantial to engage.

Dude remains an intellectual coward. He gets slapped around by everyone, then screams "nu-uhhh" and claims victory.

That is literally his whole schtick.

Seriously, go through his post history and see how many times he posts anything of substance, or even presents an actual argument that he didn't immediately parrot from some other poster (ie remarrying).
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 8:27 am
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