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re: Tulsa City Council having a Satanic Prayer
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:14 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:14 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
It's not that they're dumb. They just expect special treatment.
Rules for thee, not for me stuff.
I must respectfully disagree.
Advocating for prayer/religion in public spaces yet expecting that expression to always be something the individual approves of requires a suspension of reason too profound to reflect anything but a lack of intellect to begin with.
I was ridiculed on another thread reporting that Texas has approved a Christian curriculum for elementary age children because I pointed out the very obvious fact that there is no such thing as a public religious curriculum that everyone in even a mildly diverse community will agree with.
And these people always act surprised by this sort of thing despite the fact that some of us tell them what's going to happen
Every.
Single.
Time.
They whine to open the door and set the table for any kook to take advantage of.
It's just not difficult reasoning.
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:15 am to wackatimesthree
Correct. It’s an utterly retarded conspiracy theory
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:28 am to wackatimesthree
quote:
They whine to open the door and set the table for any kook to take advantage of.
Because they only think the rules should apply to their religion (or, sometimes, a specific sect or belief within that religion).
They don't see it as "opening the door" for anything else, b/c they expect special treatment and this only applying to their x.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:36 am to John Barron
this is what you get when you want to have religion at government hearings
the non religious conservatives tried to tell people but they don't listen
the non religious conservatives tried to tell people but they don't listen
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:37 am to lake chuck fan
quote:
I understand freedom of religion......
you actually don't
SCOTUS ruling: if a government entity starts with a prayer it is OBLIGATED to allow people of ANY faith at all the chance to lead the prayer if they submit a request to do so.
Enter the Church of Satan! Which will gladly help you find the right forms and so on to request to lead the board in a prayer to Satan.
It's amazing how many institutions suddenly decide that opening with a prayer isn't really all that important when the choice is between letting a Satanist lead the prayer every now and then or not having a prayer at all.
Likewise if a government entity displays Christian religious symbols on government land it must also allow people of ANY religion to donate symbols to be displayed as well.
And the Church of Satan has a big statue of Baphomet they cart around to put up... and again it's amazing how many city governments suddenly decide that having a cross or the 10 commandments or whatever Christian symbol they love is not so important when the choice is between having that and a statue of a demon or not having either.
When christian's who happen to be in government allow Christian symbols to be displayed on tax payer funded govt property, they get SO MAD when that Baphomet is rolled in along side of it. They say they are for "freedom of religion" but what they really mean is freedom of THEIR religion.
Bottom line: keep govt and religion separate and you wont have to hear from the satanic church anymore
This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 11:53 am
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:48 am to John Barron
That should not be tolerated. It's an offense against God and judgement will continue against our nation while we continue to allow or even promote such things.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:50 am to SixthAndBarone
quote:does not compute with this
I am in favor of this.
quote:
am Catholic and I believe there shoudn't be prayer before council meetings
You contradict yourself
Posted on 11/26/24 at 11:53 am to FooManChoo
quote:
It's an offense against God
which god
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:02 pm to monsterballads
quote:The only living God. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God who created all things, who exists as one essence in three persons: Father, Son, and Spirit.
which god
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:03 pm to monsterballads
Christians, Muslims, Satanists deserve each other.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:04 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
The only living God. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God who created all things, who exists as one essence in three persons: Father, Son, and Spirit.
so keep believing in your god and keep him out of government city council meetings.
or
the satanists will also have equal chance to talk about their god
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:11 pm to Dicken Nuggets
Still in our edgy teenager phase i see
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:23 pm to John Barron
quote:
The Gorgonea... Medusa...
her invocation sounded like a lot of woke gobbledygook and wokeism, but then again,
quote:
the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. 1 Cor 10:20
hopefully the prayers and worship of Christians in Tulsa can overcome what this silly broad is invoking at the city council meeting.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:28 pm to monsterballads
quote:God is God over all nations and governments. Jesus Christ, as the Son of God, and the God-man mediator has been given all authority by the Father to rule over the nations.
so keep believing in your god and keep him out of government city council meetings.
When nations reject Christ as King, it should not expect His blessing.
quote:They don't have a god; they're atheists. They aren't even really a religion in a formal sense but are humanists that push an ideology.
or
the satanists will also have equal chance to talk about their god
But no, our nation should definitely not allow Satanists to "pray" in that context.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:36 pm to Elihu
Go south 60 miles and try that crap in my part of rural Oklahoma
Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:44 pm to John Barron
You do know that “witches “ were some of the earliest healers & practitioners of medicine. There concoctions of natural remedies are the basis of today’s medicine. Not all spells were used as evil intent but rather for betterment nor were they aware of the God or satan but gave credence to nature.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:34 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
But no, our nation should definitely not allow Satanists to "pray" in that context.
So only the people who follow your religion can use the govt square to pray
Is that right
Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
Because they only think the rules should apply to their religion (or, sometimes, a specific sect or belief within that religion).
They don't see it as "opening the door" for anything else, b/c they expect special treatment and this only applying to their x.
Yeah, I know.
I get it. I understand what you're saying.
But that's literally stupid of them.
That's why I was replying to the other thread. Because you won't even see all Christians agreeing on that curriculum, much less Christians vs atheists.
Thinking that it's going to work out exactly like they want it is literally as stupid as thinking that someone can read their minds and being upset when it turns out they can't.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:47 pm to monsterballads
quote:
this is what you get when you want to have religion at government hearings
the non religious conservatives tried to tell people but they don't listen
I am religious and I try to tell them.
In fact, if I wasn't religious, I wouldn't care.
I don't want my kid listening to a Muslim prayer at school or a Satanist prayer at a football game or a Mormon prayer in the public square.
Or a Catholic prayer to a saint or Mary, for that matter.
If I didn't have a belief that is different from all of those, it wouldn't bother me at all. But I don't want my kids exposed to religious stuff that is contrary to what we believe.
I can't figure out why anybody else would either.
Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:57 pm to wackatimesthree
It’s all or nothing. Nothing works best. Keep government secular and non religious.
Unless you want Muslim teachers influencing your children interjecting their personal beliefs etc
Unless you want Muslim teachers influencing your children interjecting their personal beliefs etc
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