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re: Tucker tackles USS Liberty attack

Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:50 am to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:50 am to
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How does bombing a U.S. vessel advance that effort?


Drag the U.S. in the war between Israel and Egypt and have the U.S. fight Egypt on Israel’s behalf. LBJ was all in. He just needed a reason. The false flag failed because the Israelis failed to sink the USS Liberty. If only the USS Liberty sank and killed all sailors aboard then there would have been no first hand witnesses to the attack and call out LBJ’s lies.

Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:52 am to
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Drag the U.S. in the war between Israel and Egypt and have the U.S. fight Egypt on Israel’s behalf. LBJ was all in. He just needed a reason. The false flag failed because the Israelis failed to sink the USS Liberty. If only the USS Liberty sank and killed all sailors aboard then there would have been no first hand witnesses to the attack and call out LBJ’s lies.


They would have sank the ship if this were their motive. And they could have. This wasn't a "failed" attempt.

Also they didn't need the Americans to be involved at this point. Egypt was already cooked.
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 8:54 am
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:54 am to
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Our greatest ally sank our ships


useful ally, not really an ally. they spy, steal info on us, worse than the actual so called enemies
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:59 am to
You mean the guys working with CIA and Mossad? Yeah, those guys.

Btw, CIA funded ISIS.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:09 am to
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They would have sank the ship if this were their motive. And they could have. This wasn't a "failed" attempt.


The initial attack from the Israel’s was designed to take out the USS Liberty comms. They almost succeeded. The comms sailors on the Liberty pieced together damaged coms equipment and sent an SOS distress signal to the Sixth Fleet aircraft carrier USS Saratoga.

The cat was out of the bag at that point. The Israeli military was dead to rights at that point. I’m sure panic in the LBJ administration and Israeli military ensued immediately after the Sixth Fleet aircraft carrier USS Saratoga received USS Liberty’s distress signal.

After that it became a coverup operation.
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 9:12 am
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:27 am to
So in the Israelis' dastardly plan to drag the U.S. into a war against Egypt after Egypt was already effectively defeated, you think they wouldn't have expected a distress signal to be communicated by a ship under attack?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:29 am to
Your entire post is total bullshite, but I have to drive back to Lafayette. TBC.

Again, get Bibi's dick out of your arse.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:31 am to
I know in an earlier post I said the reason for the attack was to drag the U.S. into the Israeli Arab war. Just to clarify I believe LBJ and silos writhin the Pentagon were also in on the false flag attack. The Israeli military did not act alone.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:36 am to
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you think they wouldn't have expected a distress signal to be communicated by a ship under attack?


You should listen to the sailors with first hand accounts of the attack on the USS Liberty. They answer these questions in detail.

You would have to retarded or a Gazan with an IQ of 67 to believe it was a case of misidentity.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:37 am to
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Drag the U.S. in the war between Israel and Egypt and have the U.S. fight Egypt on Israel’s behalf. LBJ was all in. He just needed a reason. The false flag failed because the Israelis failed to sink the USS Liberty. If only the USS Liberty sank and killed all sailors aboard then there would have been no first hand witnesses to the attack and call out LBJ’s lies.



Assuming this is correct, we're upset at Israel for punching us when we explicitly asked them too?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:41 am to
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Assuming this is correct, we're upset at Israel for punching us when we explicitly asked them too?


Fair question.

IMO LBJ is mostly accountable, then leaders in the Pentagon and Israeli military officials.

LBJ was evil IMO.
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 9:43 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:42 am to
Not much of a "tackle". It's mentioned, this guests presents no facts outside of the attack happened and there were survivors. Tucker didn't ask any substance questions. And this is the same Tucker bragging about how cheap groceries were in Russia and never stopped to consider that the Russians that were buying these cheaper groceries were extremely poor, so the groceries were quite expensive.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:44 am to
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Fair question.

IMO LBJ is mostly accountable, then leaders in the Pentagon and Israeli military officials.

LBJ was evil IMO.


Yeah if that was true everyone involved should have been publicly hanged and their estates liquidated and split amongst the survivors and the direct families of the fallen.

I just wish Tucker would have dived deeper. There wasn't any red meat presented.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:46 am to
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Not much of a "tackle". It's mentioned, this guests presents no facts outside of the attack happened and there were survivors.


Because it wasn’t a show on a single subject like the USS Liberty. Tucker was just shooting the shite with Clayton Morris and talking about various topics Clayton produces on his show Redacted.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29473 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:47 am to
Absolutely could have been a combination of ineptitude and fatigue. The IAF had already bombed their own armored units earlier in the week.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:47 am to
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It’s antisemetic to tell people a historically accurate fact like Israel knowingly attacking our ship and killing our soldiers.


Israel was at war at the time. Why was our intelligence ship actually helping the enemy?! Does that make it a legit target?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63244 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 8:40 pm to
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Remember there are 3 Egyptian naval ships in the area in the last 18 hours.

Remember, I've listened to the actual audio and read the transcripts between the pilots and tower.
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Miss id a ship at sea is easy
They didn't mistake it. They knew whose it was and said so repeatedly. That is clear from their own communications.
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the Liberty it appears was not flying it's flag
bullshite. It 100% absolutely was.
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Now if you want to do some research
:spidermanmeme:
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The commander of the Israelite patrol boats
Ordered his men to shoot people in the water.
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Israelite
This just tells me you suck Israeli dick. Your a-hole is crowded. Apparently, you've got John Hagee in there too.
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This all goes down because
They're psychos who dgaf what they have to do to achieve their goal.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63244 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 9:18 pm to
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Absolutely could have been a combination of ineptitude and fatigue
But it wasn't, and surviving crew members were threatened into silence for years.

The Liberty was a Naval Intelligence ship monitoring the war.

We know the pilots had ID'd the ship earlier in the day. Sailor Larry Weaver said they flew so close that the pilot actually waved to him. After that, they ran up what they called the 'holiday colors,' a much larger than usual American flag. You could see it for miles.

The pilot even confirmed with flight control that it was an American ship. The control tower concurred. They came back three hours later and fired on the ship with missiles. Not only did they knock out the communications antennas, they also jammed the ship's communications. The fact that they knew what frequencies to jam is also a confirmation that they knew the nationality of the ship.

The order came from the top of the Israeli command, as declassified documents have proven. There is no way you could seriously claim 'ineptitude or fatigue' or mistaken identity.

Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19138 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 10:06 pm to
LBJ was slimy as it gets.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28158 posts
Posted on 3/15/25 at 10:41 pm to
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1. What tangible benefit would the Israeli government have to gain from attacking a powerful ally deliberately, an ally that was directly and indirectly assisting them in a conflict between three different Arab nations?



All sides knew that a forced ceasefire was coming. The Israelis were looking to use the "fog of war" to obscure the realities while grabbing as much strategic high ground as possible, the Golan Heights and Sinai in particular. As well as killing as much of Egypt's armor and air as possible. They went to considerable trouble, including the killing of prisoners, to convince the Egyptian command that they were actually.winning and that it was Israel on the verge of collapse. Israel deliberately murdered 34 American sailors just to buy another day, day and a half of operations. And they made it count. But it's no conspiracy theory. The French intercepted radio transmissions of the pilots objecting to attacking an American ship. But at the end of the day they followed orders.

Another interesting side note is that to this day Arabs believe that British and French planes aided the Israelis in the initial nighttime strikes that decimated Egyptian air power. That's based on the number of sorties flown compared to the number of Israeli planes. On the other hand Israeli sources actually put the astonishing number of sorties down to studying auto racing pit crews and their well-practiced and choreographed turnarounds. Quick turnarounds and "B-12" shots.
This post was edited on 3/15/25 at 10:45 pm
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