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re: Trump’s tariffs might actually be working as he intended

Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:16 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294151 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:16 am to
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You have got to be a BOT, a stupid one at that.

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In fact, the tariff revenue ranks as the largest increase as a percent of GDP since 1993 when compared with the first year of all the revenue measures enacted since then, according to the data.

Only the revenue raised in the fourth year of the Affordable Care Act is greater, but not by much.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7147 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:18 am to
The funniest part of your rant is 24mo ago you would’ve laughed at it.

We’ve known who pays tarriffs for hundreds of years, but since Trump says otherwise!

(When he’s not admitting what everyone already knows)

This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46087 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:18 am to
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You MAGAs need to escape your tiny bubble and read the writing on the wall.


Trump isn’t running again

If America wants inept leaders again, vote Dem

But I also realize it’s gonna depend on who Dems put on the ticket as should you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294151 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:19 am to
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Trump isn’t running again



Youre wanting to strap JD with this shite.

Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46087 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:24 am to
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Youre wanting to strap JD with this shite.


How else do we instantly fix the dumbasses in America voting on feelings?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294151 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:26 am to
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How else do we instantly fix the dumbasses in America voting on feelings?


Theyre voting with their wallet.

Y'all are in denial, stop reading that twink Daugherty and his ilk.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 10:27 am
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1886 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:27 am to
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Is that winning?


Depends on what the goal is.

If the idea is that my town is just a market and its citizens are nothing more than consumers then it is clear that having to pay $3 more for a loaf of bread is not winning.

But if the goal is more jobs, better paying jobs, more investment in my community then it most likely (not certainly) winning. As in there is either more tax revenue or more business for the bakery in my town - or some combination. There could also be less purchases of bread - which then it would matter where that money is going. If it goes to savings or purchases in-town then that goes towards winning. If it just spent on something else manufactured outside of twon then no winning.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33847 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:33 am to
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They are absorbing the costs of the tariffs instead of passing the full costs on to the consumer.


As anyone with an understanding of economics said they would.

The market price is the market price. If someone is only willing to pay $100 for a pair of shoes, they won't all of the sudden pay $120 just because of tariffs.They will buy a different brand of cheaper shoes, or they will just not buy shoes at that time. This forces the manufacturer to either absorb the tariff, or lose the sale.

The critics who said that all of the prices would just increase are morons. Sure, some prices did increase, as some markets are not as competitive and some brands are able to demand premium prices. But most markets are not able to pass on all of the tariffs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294151 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:36 am to
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As anyone with an understanding of economics said they would.

The market price is the market price.


If so, why arent Chinese importers raising prices before tariffs? Trade wars and long term tariffs absolutely affect "market prices."

They sure are leaving lots of money on the table.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 10:38 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170449 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:39 am to
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Sure, some prices did increase, as some markets are not as competitive and some brands are able to demand premium prices. But most markets are not able to pass on all of the tariffs.

I think the issue that most people recognize with Trump's "strategy" is that it isn't predictable at all. Not to the point where any of the goals of the tariffs will come to fruition. Why would a company invest billions in onshoring when the tariffs are subject to change at any time?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33847 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:40 am to
"Chinese importers" is a very wide category of manufacturer and product.

Some are and some are not. It depends on the product and the market.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33847 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:43 am to
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Trump's "strategy"


I don't disagree with your point. My comments were only addressing pricing as related to tariffs. Many markets are not able to add tariffs, and thus the manufacturer must eat them. Some are able to.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14011 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:45 am to
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The Trump cult loves when business makes a smaller profit due to government pulling the taxing levers



Trump Lovers want jobs available when their Children and or Grandchildren graduate college.
Living on the Street and eating in Soup Kitchens is no way to live.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294151 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:46 am to
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Trump Lovers want jobs available when their Children and or Grandchildren graduate college.


Rubber dog shite factories pay min wage or lowest wage possible.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33847 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:58 am to
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They sure are leaving lots of money on the table.


I'm not sure what point you think you are making.

The markets are pretty fine-tuned. Companies generally sell for what the market will bear. Whether they raise prices to accommodate tariffs or other market pressures is a decision that varies by company, based on many factors.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294151 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 11:00 am to
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The markets are pretty fine-tuned.


The more meddling govt does, the less "tuned" it becomes and less responsive to traditional stimuli.

You cant fix dysfunction by doubling down on more dysfunction.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
2018 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 11:07 am to
Bjorn Cyborg,
You do know that you're having a discussion with a guy that likes to buy high and sell low, correct?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294151 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 11:08 am to
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Living on the Street and eating in Soup Kitchens is no way to live.


Min wage assembly line work isnt saving them

Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12477 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 11:08 am to
Roger lives off the government
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
294151 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 11:09 am to
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Roger lives off the government


Working class populism has a lot of dishonest members.

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